I agree, hence my “unlikely based on other things we’ve seen, granted”.
But if they could strengthen bones and muscles (and not cause other problems), I’d think it would be either a requirement for all Fleet members or at least strongly encouraged. Hence, I’d argue either they can’t do it (maybe getting the balance right so you don’t rip your own arm off is very tricky/impossible), or there are cultural norms against it.
Timmi mentioned that once the Kaylon learned to communicate they modified themselves; that explains housekeeping models having weapons.
I thought this was a great episode. The main plot with the diplomacy was kind of dumb but the rest was good. “Let’s fool them and then tell them we fooled them and they’ll realize the error of their ways” was such a dumb plan in the first place, but the breaking point, where the woman demanded to be able to rape Ed, didn’t have to fall apart - they could’ve simply said that while we don’t allow men to lead, they’re not slaves either, and they can choose their own mates. The final resolution where they win the cooperation of the delegation by talking about how it was Grayson that cheated on Mercer - I didn’t really understand the point they were trying to make or why that would change their mind.
I was expecting the emotional Kaylon to be revealed to be pulling some sort of trick and become the bad guy and I’m glad that didn’t happen. We pretty much know the Kaylon origin story but it was still really difficult to watch their creators be so cruel to them.
I thought the talk between Grayson and Finn was actually pretty insightful, about being afraid to ask someone to change for you because you could chalk their problems up to personal failings, but refusing to even try to change for you would be an unambiguous rejection.
I thought the scene where Isaac gains access to emotions was really well acted and touching, and the resolution was sort of clever, in that it gave an emotionless Isaac the chance to prove that he did love Claire in his own way. I think the guy who plays Isaac is probably the best actor on the show - he has a great physicality when playing Isaac to make him seem slightly alien but can play the entirely different emotional Isaac too.
The humor was pretty good, too, I think. It made me laugh a few times but it was quick and flowed well with the episode. When Malloy chimed in with “I’ll do it” to take Ed’s place with the alien woman, or the way he delivered “no, that was a serious suggestion” about the helmet was funny.
I have no idea what is going on with Bortus but he’s the best character in the whole show and it’s like they’ve banished him this season. Almost no lines from him, no humor. Did something happen to the actor behind the scenes or something? It’s not like he’s too busy or something - he still shows up and sits in the makeup chair for 5 hours to appear in the episode - why is he just getting no screen time this season? So weird.
Didn’t feel the chemistry in the LaMarr/Keyali relationship and we basically got 3 scenes of the same gag with him getting broken. I guess the last one with the breakup and the broken face was a little funny. I think it’s mostly just that the guy who plays LaMarr doesn’t feel natural in anything he does - he seems awkward spouting technobabble, he doesn’t seem like he can out having chemistry either.
Did you watch A Tale of Two Topas?
The only part of this episode that appealed to me was the flashback to the Kaylon origin. It reminded me of Not All Robots. Also, it was interesting to me that they actually showed the children being killed, even though they cut to a discreet angle from which you couldn’t directly see them.
I am sooooo not interested in the romance between Isaac and Claire; although, I agree with the above comment that the actor playing Isaac is quite impressive.
The resolution to the negotiation plot didn’t make any sense to me.
The injuries to LaMarr were too over-the-top extreme. The final scene was horrific. I had to look away.
The Kaylon origin was almost beat for beat the story of Planet of the Apes (the original movies).
The children torturing K-1 was also pretty rough to watch.
Yes, I agree. That scene was quite cruel.
Shows just how cruel humans can be when they think they’re dealing with a lesser species eg. Jews at the hands of Nazis, for sample.
That was definitely the most Bortus heavy episode so far, but Klyden and Kelly got more screen time than him. I agree, Bortus is being underutilized.
Also, apparently HIPAA doesn’t exist in the Union, since Claire was perfectly happy to discuss a patient’s private medical information with her boyfriend.
I did think that was strange. And it didn’t lead anywhere (like Isaac trying to review non-existent simulator logs).
The difference is that the LaMarr scene was being played for laughs and to me his facial injuries were too serious to be funny.
The K-1 scenes were making a dramatic point, so while rough, they were appropriately serious.
3x08 is very Bortusy (and very long—an hour and 26 minutes).
Also, to hell with Vic Fontaine. The Orville brings out the big…um…guns.
Although HIPPA exists in our universe, I assure you doctors are talking to their boyfriends and girlfriends about their patients now and then.
I am enjoying this show, but agree that the negotiation plan was too stupid from the beginning. Why not just say “Commander Greyson will lead the negotiations because we know you’re more comfortable dealing with women?”
The show tries to be both a serious drama and a zany sitcom. You wouldn’t question the plan if it were an episode of Three’s Company.
Yeah. I try to stay in that mentality. But the show does deal with serious subjects and has some dramatic action as well. The zany sitcom parts are sometimes jarring. But, it’s fine. I good time is had by all.
Talking about patients completely unknown to the boyfriend and not using any identifying information? Sure, and I don’t think that’s a HIPAA violation anyway. Telling a patient’s friend about the patient, using their name, as casual dinner conversation? No, I don’t think that happens in our universe often at all. And it’s HIPAA, not HIPPA.
And I wouldn’t watch Three’s Company as the stupidity of the alleged zaniness would not be funny.
There can be funny mixed with drama. When done it is often very effective as it uses the tension built up needing release as a driver of the laugh. Gives the dramatic build a breather. That ep was not that.
This last ep was good, more pure drama. Not great though. Not happy that This text will be blurred is back. The special guest a bit heavy handeldly written in. I’d expect more political pragmatism on all sides and less naïveté. And the interrogator needed to die to protect the person on Moclus.
Those aliens with their weird names!
The last ep, E8, was really quite good. I said to myself right before the holodeck scene holy shit they got Dolly Parton didn’t they.