I guessed that swould happen as soon as the music was playing at the author!s house.
Well, that torture device crammed into his eye couldn’t have done him any good, and he did specify that at high levels it would compromise the brain.
Of course, they would have been recording the interrogation to killing him wouldn’t necessarily do any good, although having the boss show up implies that they weren’t doing that.
And Bortus and Greyson sharing glances does not bode well - I really don’t want them to be a couple. Although Kliden seemed aware and not opposed?
And what are the spoiler rules here - we’re two days after airing, is that OK? I personally don’t drop into these threads until I’ve watched the episode, but I know that others may not do that.
I don’t make rules but my personal practice has been trying to blur spoilers day of airing but after that anyone here should be aware that the episode will be discussed.
Really good episode, and it’s amazing the got Dolly Parton to guest star in something way more than a cameo. I wonder if her toe story is real.
I have to say the scene where Mercer was alone with Heveena and told her he knew she was hiding something is by far the best acting I’ve seen by MacFarlane ever. Miles ahead of everything else he’s done on this show.
Apparently so, or at least she’s told it more than once.
That’s hilarious. I also liked Heveena’s typically Moclanish reply: “I fail to grasp the meaning of this parable.”
But all I could think of during the story was this song from The Simpsons.
ETA: What I meant by “hilarious” is that Seth must have heard the story and asked Ms. Parton to use it in her performance. Not a little girl almost severing her own toes - that’s not funny at all.
Their holodeck technology seems a little primitive. She looked so plastic and artificial.
My WAG is that her agreeing to be on the show is what came first, driving the creation of storyline to provide the reason to have it.
Heveena knowingly putting a child at risk is one thing, but all of Moclus and all who live there are now easy pickings for the Kaylons and the Union may lose millions of lives for being in weaker state. Risking that by cheating on the agreement is a very myopic view of the greater good.
Maybe. But he did that ignoring the command to stand down.
You know, the Underground railroad contributed to the Civil War which caused the deaths of hundreds of thousands, as well as weakening the USA for decades, but I’m not going to call Harriet Tubman “myopic”. (Though I agree getting a 12 year old girl involved was beyond the pale).
Also, Bortus & Grayson had no idea what information Topa had given at that point, and who knew it, or even why Topa had been kidnapped in the first place. Their only priority was getting her out of there and escaping, not performing an investigation.
Well, they did take take for a full scan of the base, but that may be an automatic thing.
That was when they were searching for her, so taking a full scan of the base is tactically useful.
Thats an at best questionable claim. It was a result of the factors that led to the war, not a contributing factor itself. The War likely would have happened whether or not the Underground Railroad stopped operation. But let’s play it out even with that noted. Tubman having good reason to believe that being caught running that operation was risking the possibility of every individual of the South being killed, Black, white, free or slaved, man, woman, child (a good probability now for Moclus on their own against the Kaylons), and that many of the North would die as well, I think would be required for the analogy to hold.
The Moclans may accept that but see their cultural norm on gender as just as existential. The Krill are in the same boat despite their chest beating. Still their being even more at risk than the Union if disunited should have been pointed out.
I liked when Rena proclaimed that “you’re not real.” That was irony writ large, my friend!
Apparently is is. By wife always researches stuff on her phone when we watch anything.
Grand Ole Opry!
Dolly as the patron saint for female empowerment in the now & future is a good thing indeedily!
Peak performance from Seth especially and lots of good character development all around.
The Big Three Powers in the Galaxy who might ally together against the Keylon threat are – all too clear – on their own
On the plus side this might push the Janisi towards an alliance with the Union. Also the Krill Empire is a power on par with the Union, but Moclus was just Union member (albeit one a major one). Moclus might just be the weakest of the three. And what happens to their arms industry without the Union ad a customer?
Gordon had some good scenes - he handled the Topa date situation as well as anyone could - and he gave the Moclan a much needed telling off. A month in the wilds of Connecticut has done him good.
Good thing he handled it properly, and with plenty of trustworthy witnesses. Tonight’s episode made it clear what a Papa Wolf Bortus can be.
I asked before, but remind me, did Isaac personally kill anyone? I seem to recall he went along with the Alpha Kaylon who came aboard the Orville for awhile, even after the top droid got all murdery.
Yes, his “I’ll do it!” was the funniest moment of the season so far, I’d say. I also got a good laugh when Bortus said he doesn’t see the sense in a matriarchy and the domination of one sex over another, and Kelly and Talla both give him a look, and then when Topa is hitting on Malloy, who’s oblivious until he says “Ohhhh!” and LaMarr, nearby, says, “Yeah, there ya go, Sherlock.”
Absolutely. Gender equality is something the alien women should know, right up front, is important to the Union. As Edith Keeler said, a lie is a terrible way to start a relationship.
For Talla and LaMarr’s dangerous sex (also a recurring gag on ST:DS9, with Worf and Jadzia Dax), I wonder if there’d be some drug to temporarily weaken Talla so she couldn’t hurt him. But of course then they’d have to confide in the doctor.
The Orville crew keep leaving their shuttles open to the elements (and intruders) when they land. They did it once and a Kaylon got in and surprised them, and they did it again when they landed on the Moclan women’s colony, allowing its sabotage. Dumb.
It also bugs me that passengers in the shuttle almost always stand right behind the pilot and copilot while the shuttle is in motion. An abrupt stop or sharp maneuver, and they could really get hurt.
Also annoying: Bortus agrees to let Tapa come on the mission to the women’s colony on condition that she obey his orders. She agrees. He tells her to stay in the shuttle right after they land. She agrees… and then almost immediately emerges, setting off an argument with the three Moclan inspectors. D’oh!
I like Dolly Parton, but thought her appearance was… cringeworthy. It felt shoe-horned into the story, and she’s had so much plastic surgery (I presume) that it was distracting. I also just don’t buy, even as a joke, that an alien culture several hundred years from now would so idolize her.
I bet we’ll see that Moclan torturer again, out for revenge against Bortus.
Great to have Klyden return, admit he was wrong and be forgiven by Tapa.
And a nice zoom-out at the end of that episode, with Kelly joining the Moclan family for dinner.
Seemed to me like another perfect time to tell her that he was born female too, but it still didn’t happen.