Topa may forgive Klyden but does that repair the relationship between Bortus and Klyden?
This is clearly for TV purposes to get everyone into a nice tableau for the camera. Complaining about this is like complaining about people not saying “hello” or “goodbye” in telephone calls, or never being shown using toothpaste or not rinsing after brushing their teeth. It’s for television; realism is a secondary consideration.
Yeah, I hate it when sci-fi characters are shown having interests firmly rooted in our own time, like Cmdr. Riker and jazz music or Capt. Picard and Sherlock Holmes or Capt. Sisko and baseball. Come up with a fictional future culture for the characters to be interested in.
I think that may just be so the audience can relate. (And I can imagine that jazz music, baseball and Sherlock Holmes will remain relevant centuries from now. Dolly Parton, on the other hand . . .)
Edited to add, we listen to music composed 200 years ago.
I always felt TNG did Music and literature well. People have liked classical music for hundreds of years it seems natural they would still in hundreds of years from now. Jazz feels like it has the same longevity. Music with lyrics ages much worse and I would expect 99% of it to be forgotten in the 24th Century.
To me, it just seems like an author insert. I already know that huge numbers of real, contemporary people like these things. I don’t need my science fiction spending valuable story time on people liking these same things. Even worse, the way Next Gen did it in the case of Picard, Riker, and Sisko, it always came off cheezy and cringy, and it definitely did in the case of Dolly Parton in this episode.
Star Trek always did Shakespeare well, though. And Melville.
I felt the same way. Whatever she had done is miles ahead of the usual Hollywood plastic surgery travesties, but seeing a woman of any age with absolutely no lines on her face teeters at the edge of the uncanny valley.
Still, it’s Dolly Parton. She can do whatever she wants — and she always has.
In general I agree with you — and the other posters here — that having people in the future enjoy 20th- and 21st-century entertainment has become ridiculous and annoying. That said, it’s been established that Mercer likes that crap, so it’s believable that he played some for Haveena. And it’s not the entire culture that idolizes Parton, it’s just Haveena. So as much as I hate the trope, I’m willing to give this one a pass.
We do see the women and girls of the colony dancing to an instrumental version of Gay Dean.
Since Haveena is their founder and leader it makes that they follow her lead in cultural tastes.
Meh. It was Wednesday. On Wednesday they dance to Haveena’s mix tape.
P.S. Thank you for reminding me of “Gay Dean”! I love it.
Anyone?
I’m pretty sure Isaac didn’t actually kill anyone himself - he did quite enough damage by basically triggering the war via his research/espionage. I would rewatch the episodes to check, but the Orville is really just my guilty pleasure. I don’t like Star Trek, and don’t like middle-of-the-road sitcoms; I’m just slightly too invested to stop watching.
I had a hard time swallowing a lot of 3x09.
The Union was willing to team up with the Kaylon in war against the Krill and Moclans to rescue the only weapon holding the Kaylon back? To send several dozen warships, losing a lot of people? Really? It is one thing not to pull the trigger on the “kill 'em all” device, but if it gets stolen from you and used by a third party, I think you could do the moral gymnastics just fine to convince yourself that wiping out all the killbots wasn’t your fault. I kept hoping that the episode would go dark and have the device end up being used successful despite attempts to stop it, everybody Feels Really Bad About It, and they move on. (And what a waste of a perfectly good Ted Danson.)
I’m only 45 minutes in and stopped out of boredom more than anything else. Half an hour more to plod through? I hope it picks up.
I don’t mind all the things that don’t make sense or are just dumb if the ride is exciting enough that I’m too distracted to think about them. This is not that ride. Hoping when I gird myself up for the last half hour tomorrow sometime it picks up some!
It’s been a running joke throughout the series that Ed likes American “classical music” which is our current pop music.
What do you think of Picard reenacting the truly fictional detective Dixon Hill on the holo deck?
The moclan weapons industry includes high tech lock out tools.
Ha! But even if they didn’t have that, we could see Kelly and Bortus leave the back of the shuttle open. Just dumb.
Bortus forgot to punch the button on the key, or thought that the “beep beep” on the horn would attract bad guys.
BTW, have I mentioned that I love those Kaylon ships? The Kaylon remind me of the TOS:BSG Cylons.