Yes, because they had decided that the Union principle of aggression (especially genocide) as a last resort was worth the sacrifice. And I got the impression that if the device was destroyed they could make another one. The issue wasn’t getting it back to use it, it was to prevent another person from using it before the peace process had a chance.
I think that was what Admiral Ted Danson (whatever his character’s name was) counted on somewhat. I don’t think he wanted a war between the Krill and Union (or even worse, the Krill-Moclan alliance and Union) but figured once the deed was done, the Union would say, at least the Kaylon are gone. I doubt he anticipated how insistent the Union was to not be party to genocide. Because they absolutely would be; they built the weapon and one of their top leaders provided it to the ones who would use it.
If someone built a gun, then handed it to a hitman and said, “Kill that guy”, they’d be a murderer no matter who pulled the trigger.
I like how it ended. I found the Burke sacrifice especially impactful given her history. And it made sense; she had something of a death wish since losing the woman she loved. I think that her death was dark enough.
This I agree with. Since The Good Place I’ve been such a massive fan and kept hoping he’d get a bigger role in this show. Too bad.
Analogy of WWII and a hot cold war.
The USSR became the enemy after WWII, Germany and Japan became allies of the West.
The device was the atomic bomb.
I’d have killed all the kaylons. They admitted to seeking a fault in the weapon. Consider the loss of lives and ships fighting the Krill and moclans.
I agree, a shame to lose Charley.
OK, never mind. There was a lot posted online about Seth dating Halston Sage, and she left the show. There’s also been a lot of talk that he’s dating Anne Winters, and now she has left the show. On further Googling, while I found a great deal about him dating both women, I didn’t find sources I truly trusted.
Further, if he was dating them, it doesn’t mean their leaving was connected. It does show why dating people you can hire and fire is not the wisest thing to do, and at minimum, how it can look bad.
Call me naive, but I think Charley’s particular plotline was baked into the story arc before McFarlane may or may not have had a personal relationship with Winters. The character had a good run, and nothing to do with her character in the episode seemed thrown together at the last minute.
That was my feeling. The character who goes from hating all Kaylon to sacrificing herself to save them is a complete story arc. And it’s pretty clear she was brought in just for this arc. It would have been easy to have any of the existing crew undergo the same story, but then we’d lose an established character.
I think the Moclans may just be too dumb to live. They’re facing an existential threat and desperate* for an alliance. So they send who presumably is their top diplomatic or state leader to Krill, and promptly insult the Chancellor of Krill by insisting that obviously they will lead the alliance because she’s a woman. If they’re that arrogant and misogynistic how did they ever manage to join the Union in the first place?
*It’s obvious how pathetically desperate they were given they immediately acquiesced to Telya’s demand for equal partnership.
The Union needed a dumb side kick they could blame all their mistakes on.
“Look, these guys are dicks, but we can keep an eye on them if they are members of the Planetary Union. Give them some Smoky the Bear badges and keep them out of trouble.”
Yet apparently the Union doesn’t have any other members able to produce weapons, has the one important weapon they did produce not highly secured, and dependent on two particular individuals to operate.
Is anyone or species on this show smart enough to live?
Union culture classical music is apparently limited to a few decades of the 20th century.
I’d love to see them spend less on special effects and more on better writers.
There’s also the fact that they finished filming this season almost a year ago, so what’s going on now between MacFarlane and Winters should have no connection to whether she’s still on the show.
Same basic plot but less plodding. Some stupid not included. Less singing, less time with long scenes of space ships. More character and conflict driven. Less Orville as the only crew doing anything important in the universe.
Charlie’s character went from “we should have used the device and killed them all except the two good ones, too risky to not” to sacrificing herself saving them (an overload being something Issac or even Prime could have done too I’d think but never mind) without any tension or inner conflict of getting there shown. Our going into the final scenes unsure whether or not she’d pull an Admiral Perry even sacrificing herself to do THAT (heck Perry when asked what do you do now answering Disneyworld would have been funny but better would him answering with knowledge that they could not let him live) would have been more engaging than the long scenes of firefight. Yeah you have an FX budget now. We know.
I’m contrasting how a self- sacrifice of a character in SNW surprised and moved me with the move it along already I felt here.
The quality of mercy is not strained.
It droppeth as the gentle rain from heaven
Upon the place beneath. It is twice blest:
It blesseth him that gives and him that takes.
Portia, “Merchant of Venice”
We believe the quality of mercy is mightiest in the mightiest.
Victor Garber as Admiral Halsey
Yeah, good luck with that. This episode had lots of characters with good or bad intentions. Few met their fate. Malloy and Lamarr get to fly those cool fighters - I only recall the one that Malloy flew in the first episode of this season.
One question: When Telaya is talking to the Moclan emissary, she says the Krill are next going to take on "(some planet) and Zelayah. Obviously the Krill were distracted from that campaign yet who were the first target?
Charly and her 4th dimension thinKing will return. And nobody could have followed Isaac’s eulogy.