The Orville-Seth McFarlane

Just me, then. :smack: Thanks…I have no idea how I missed that.

Good point. Kind of like the 25th Amendment.

I agree that “Order 38” created more problems than it solved. But why did they even have to know she was doing it at all? Why couldn’t she come back to duty saying “feeling much better, sir” and have everyone be like “huh, okay…glad to hear it” while she winks at Isaac?

That was the highlight of the episode for me.

OTOH this is a cool idea too.

I liked the show. Sure, it had some trope-ish elements, but what episode of Star Trek didn’t? The horror was generally done well and reasonably scary, the characters were engaging, etc.

At first, I didn’t think she was in a simulation - I thought this was a different take on ‘Day of the Dove’ from TOS, and that the Orville had taken on a being that could control minds and which fed off of fear.

I did like that the conversation that she had with her parents indicated that Alara is kind of a loser by Xelayan standards. That puts a little more light on her insecurities on the ship. She is not considered good enough by her own people’s standards and fears that she is not good enough by Union standards.

Yup, another good point. That conversation was a keeper, but could have been the “B plot” while they used the “A plot” for something else entirely.

I wonder BTW what her parents would have thought of the zoo where Isaac had to ask the zookeeper to talk to Alara because he thought of Xelayans and humans both as beneath him. I’ve got to think they would be tempted to argue not that he was being unjust in general, but that Xelayans naturally belonged on the other side of the divide. Kind of like you sometimes saw with light-skinned blacks in the Jim Crow era.

The show is uneven but I’m still watching, and usually enjoying, it. The next best thing to having another Star Trek series.

Yeah, you’d think a doctor would be troubled by having killed somebody, even in self-defense. Hope we see her wrestling with this a bit more.

Yes, but they were SO bratty and poorly-disciplined I was annoyed.

You can get it for $375 down at the Union SuperStore.

Preach it. I can’t think of another sf program that showed interspecies sex on-screen.

Definitely.

Heh. I expect no less.

Are the writers good enough to play on that?

He played the same blue guy in the series premiere, uncredited, IMDB says.

So you know all about that species’ sexuality, do you? Come on. This is Seth MacFarlane’s show. Of course it’s a cum joke.

I agree, but it’s a British actor, Mark Jackson:

http://deadline.com/2016/12/mark-jackson-cast-seth-macfarlane-fox-series-orville-1201867326/

Yeah, that would’ve been better.

And consider Q’s sly comments in ST:TNG “Q Who”: “Picard, you are about to move into areas of the galaxy filled with wonders you cannot possibly imagine. And terrors to freeze your soul!.. If you can’t take a little bloody nose, maybe you ought to go back home and crawl under your bed. It’s not safe out here. It’s wondrous, with treasures to satiate desires both subtle and gross. But it’s not for the timid.”

Heh. Best line of the episode.

reminds me of a Kathleen Madigan stand-up bit where she said she wasn’t sure whether she’d want aliens to visit us, because “what if Earth is the ‘Alabama of the galaxy?’”

I think the score played in the Alara v. Isaac scenes was an homage to Aliens. The way Alara slung the rifle over her shoulder was reminiscent of Ripley confronting aliens with a flamethrower.

they’ve done that a few times. in ep. 4 when the crew is investigating the generation ship, the music is very reminiscent of the “cloud” scenes in Star Trek: The Motion Picture.

Although I generally like this show a lot (other than the most recent episode), there is one mode of criticism of it that I couldn’t really dispute. If someone said they just can’t be okay with it being so derivative (perhaps calling it a “ripoff”), I couldn’t really dispute that point. I like it regardless, but it’s definitely a valid critique.

I… But… I. Mean

The show exists to be derivative. If it wasn’t it would not be in production. That’s the whole point. It’s Star Trek/space opera TV pastiche. That’s what it’s doing.

I would call it more “pastiche” than rip-off.

Homage.:stuck_out_tongue:

Minimalistic reinterpretation.

Ka-Ching!

Hey, other than the current episode, I love the show. But I think it would be fair to say that it’s not necessarily designed just to appeal to people who “get the references”. Several episodes have been pretty straightforward TNG type episodes (complete with creative inputs from many who worked on that show) but without getting authorization or paying royalties.

Basically, like high-budget, for-profit fanfic, but which also plays well to audiences who never saw the inspiration. And as much as I generally enjoy it, I do have the nagging sense that it’s a little shady. I would feel much more comfortable if MacFarlane had gotten the rights to do a Star Trek spin off.

Do we know that he did not?

It is also of note that soon after those killings she instructs her son to put his weapon on stun because something along the lines of that they may kill but we don’t.

I do not believe that quick contrast between what she does on her own and how she acts in front of family and fellow crew is just messy writing. This is not Family Guy.