According to Fox, the Dem Representatives are planning to walk out during the debate on AG Holder’s contempt debate/vote. This won’t stop anything since there will still be a quorum left so my questions for y’all.
Will a walkout help or hurt the Dems in the House?
2a) Will a walkout help or hurt Holder?
2b) And by extension, help or hurt Obama?
Will the Pubs be satisfied with mere contempt or are we looking a the AG’s resignation (by choice or by Obama’s urging) or failing that, impeachment?
The vote and walkout won’t help or hurt anybody because there is precisely zero room for any other political story right now. If anything the timing is great for Holder, Obama, and the Democrats.
As to (3) the GOP will be forced to do something (even if it’s just another contempt vote) if they want to keep the story going. The AG will not resign. And the public only barely seems to care (and certainly not today).
Yea, from the GOP’s point of view, this is kind of dumb timing. I guess they must’ve figured the SCOTUS would reach a decision earlier in the month when they came up with the original schedule.
In anycase, I doubt they’ll get much mileage out of this. Holder isn’t going to resign and the House isn’t going to impeach him. A few NRA voters who need a reason to get worked up against a President that hasn’t actually done anything to restrict their gun rights will get worked up, so Issa will get what he’s really looking for and that’ll be the end of it.
There is almost no practical value to it. The contempt vote means that congress will pass this to the US Attorney for the District of Columbia who is unlikely to try to prosecute his boss. The civil contempt motion will have the republicans going to court to get the court to order Holder to hand over documents but the courts are traditionally reluctant to override a claim of executive privilege.
So much theatrics and hand waving but that is about all it is. The reps are playing to their base but then their base is, well their base so not like they are garnering new votes with this.
I’m assuming the story as it has been presented so far by the media is well-known. In this recent article from Fortune, however, another account is given, which contends "that the public case alleging that [Lead ATF Agent] Voth and his colleagues walked guns is replete with distortions, errors, partial truths, and even some outright lies.
How the evidence presented in the article, which contradicts accounts up to now, was unearthed by Fortune but not examined by the House, is not clear to me. It does suggest a certain ineptitude by the House committee, and that’s putting it lightly.
This seems like a despicable sequence of events on the part of the executive branch and I personally want it investigated. It’s not even close to the same scope as the whole Iran-Contra affair but it feels more than superficially in the same class and the truth should be dug out. The whole executive privilege thing seems like political maneuvering but I want the truth out.