Gee, that was easy:
http://www.ign.com/boards/threads/tom-brady-is-now-a-thug.454516672/
I’m not saying it doesn’t get criticized. I’m saying it doesn’t get the massive amount of criticism Hannity etc gets…
Thats funny.
lol
if that was the best you could find on google it kind of proves my point
I will never assume anything benign about Hannity.
Some blacks were called thug alot or heard others being called thug alot, so they naturally assumed it must be racist.
As it shouldn’t. Rappers use the term in a way Hannity does not. Do you understand this?
Um, wait, it perfectly disproves your point. Someone called Brady a thug. The end. But it wasn’t that important anyway.
How do you know how Hannity used it?
Yes. I understand that.
I think it is wrong for rappers to glorify criminality and violence.
Do you understand that?
What about mob movies? Video games? Car heist movies? Prison break television shows? The board game Clue?
Also, as this is Great Debates - where are you getting the idea that using the word “thug” sells more records?
So criticize them. No one’s stopping you.
more seriously, I think you are saying this:
People get all over Hannity for referring to black people who are not criminals as “thugs.” I understand that. However, black rappers are doing much much worse, by glorifying violence and a gangster lifestyle, and they seem to get a relative pass from society, even (especially) from the same people who are pissed off at Hannity. In my opinion, rappers who do this are doing much more damage to the African-American community than people like Hannity are. Let’s discuss why that might be.
But that is not what the OP is about.
that is exactly what I am saying
That’s a good summation of what he’s getting at - but I still don’t see the link.
Hannity is a TV news personality, apparently using a word considered racially charged. People have said to him, “Don’t say that word, it’s racially charged”.
Rappers also use the word, says the OP - though he hasn’t given us any examples of this, and the only specific rapper to pop up so far in this thread has been dead for nearly 20 years.
“Why are they allowed to use a word that Hannity isn’t?” pivots really quickly into “Why do they glorify violence?” in a way I can’t quite follow.
Edited to add - what is meant by saying that they get a pass from society? That their music is recorded and played on the radio? That you can buy their albums? That we don’t jail them for it? That their mums still invite them around at Christmas? Well, of course. Just as violent films are allowed to play in cinemas, and violent video games are available for purchase. What would not giving them a pass look like? Censoring them?
Oh, finding a “thug” in recent rap lyrics is easy, you just go through…Taylor Swift?
She's white, she's not armed, she's not a criminal, but she's still a thug, she informs us.what about it
see the word(s) Thug Life, right underneath the AK47??? That fine looking man is named Tupac, the most famous Rapper ever. Here is an album he put out called Thug Life.
Here is the Urban Dictionary definition of Thug Life: Thug Life
A word Evolved by the late Tupac Shakur. Commonly mistaken for a Criminal. Thug Life is the opposite of someone having all he needs to succeed. Thug life is when you have nothing, and succeed, when you have overcome all obstacles to reach your aim.
Here is Tupac’s song/video called Thug Life. Lyrics. Here in another song, called Shed So Many Tears, Tupac talks about his tattoo, getting "Thug Life tattooed across my chest… In the song U can’t see me Tupac brags that “even my own mamma says I’m thugged out.”
Shed So Many Tears
You can’t See Me
Thug Mansion
Tupac sold 75 Million Records
Tupac had a lot more songs about “Thug Life”. Lots of other rappers talk about thug Life too. Tupac is just the first and most famous.
As a closing note, I do not think Tupac’s intent was necessarily to glorify crime and violence. It was to talk about his struggles and the struggles of black people (from his background) in an honest way. He spoke from the heart. He spoke directly. He was honest. That is why his message/music is so popular, with all kinds of people, of all races and income levels and experiences.
Oh, I see.
I must have missed the social media explosions when Thug Life came out in 1994. And it’s good to see we’re using Urban Dictionary as a Great Debates cite now. Progress!
That’s my feel of it because I haver personally seen youth that listen to such often, gain an attitude based off of it.
It’s like back in the day when that movie “Boyz in the hood” came out. I was at the theater that day seeing another movie and when I came out, cops where swarming the place because so many youths who came out of that theater after watching the movie, starting acting the fool and causing trouble.
Not saying that movie glorified violence in the same way some rap lyrics do or elude to, but rather the subculture glorified it, friends that see or hear about being hard and find it cool and therefore pass that glorification onto others.