But she might. I have been known to leave wet towels on the bathroom floor. I’m not taking any chances.
Nah, they just make the same rookie mistake every man did once (or a hundred times) : thinking “this one’s different”
But she might. I have been known to leave wet towels on the bathroom floor. I’m not taking any chances.
Nah, they just make the same rookie mistake every man did once (or a hundred times) : thinking “this one’s different”
There are folks who want to ban MMA because it’s “so brutal” and “dangerous” and such.
**DKW **- I think you are operating from a few misconceptions here. The main one being that anyone other than maybe some Left-wing pastey face social retards want to ban MMA.
Your other big misconception is that there is enough “sex” in MMA to rile anyone up other than a few frigid ultra conservative hen-pigs.
Also FWIW, MMA is a lot more structured and regulated now. So it’s less of a human cock-fight than it was 10-20 years ago.
Does TV coverage of MMA highlight the card girls? When the card girls are in the ring TV coverage I’ve seen always shows us what’s going on in the corner, or immediately cuts to commercial if the fight isn’t on HBO/Showtime/PPV. The ring girls are strictly for the enjoyment of folks in the seats at the venue.
I don’t really understand why the card girl thing is even relevant? There are scantily clad women on network TV and billboards on the freeway.
If by “structured and regulated” you mean “by fly-by-night organizations like EliteXC which build their whole business plan around one fighter after he’s fought just one official bout, then quietly fold their tent and disappear two weeks after the schmoe who beat him not-so-quietly suggested that the fix was in”, then yeah.
'Course, one could say the same about boxing or other fistic arts, but the EliteXC debacle really didn’t help MMA shed its “beat three tomato cans, declare yourself champion” image.
I don’t think the OP’s on the right track at all. There are two ways to kill (not ban) MMA that I can think of:
Have boxing get its shit together. A single, transparent, corruption-free governing body, and a drastic reduction in the number of weight classes, and boxing would be relevant again. Not likely any time soon, but still.
Wait for a fighter to die in the ring (“octagon,” whatever). It won’t be like boxing, where the boxer walks out of the arena and dies from brain swelling three days later. It’ll be a guy who’s a bloody, swollen mess bleeding out of his ears or getting his neck snapped on live TV.
Actually, that one might get it banned, if it were gruesome enough.
Isn’t it against the rules to post while drunk? This OP is more incoherent than Mike Tyson after his trip to Bolivia.
Second of all, the crappy “We love violence” riff you’re doing doesn’t even make any sense. The Columbine kids weren’t bullied nobodies with no friends but each other. They were reasonably popular and did what they did because they had sick delusions of grandeur. Literally, shit happened.
And your video game examples? House of the Dead 2? For real? A game where you shoot zombies that bleed green blood? That’s the goriest game ever? And Mortal Kombat? The reason no one beats up on Mortal Kombat anymore is because the entire world realized one day that any average R-rated movie includes more horriffic scenes than Mortal Kombat. And the eighth MK game wasn’t even Mature-rated. Midway cut back on the violence so they could bring Batman in.
I don’t see how that would kill MMA. MMA is a superior product to Boxing in every way.
It hasn’t killed NASCAR or Pro-Football yet, why would it kill MMA?
I think they’d successfully argue that it’s not as dangerous as many other occupations shown on TV and if not everyone would just watch in online when it is performed in other countries only.
People have the right to get their necks broken for cash. It’s really that simple.
I see where you’re going with this, but it won’t work. Sex and violence sell just fine everywhere even with the Christian influence in the United States.
Fighting is in our blood, we are just apes who talk.
Why do you want to “kill” MMA?
MMA is superior to boxing in *many *ways, ***because ***boxing is such a fucked up mess right now. Fixing boxing wouldn’t exactly kill MMA, but it would really stunt its growth. The people who prefer that particular kind of combat would still get into MMA, but right now the people who would be drawn to some form of combat are going to find it very hard to get into boxing as new fans, and only have one palatable alternative.
Because MMA has a much more gruesome, barbaric reputation – in part because it’s new, and in part because it really looks fucking gruesome and barbaric (I’m not saying it’s logically any different, mind you). And, in particular, because an MMA death would likely be shown in a much more graphic manner. When a race car driver, football player, or (usually) a boxer gets killed, fans don’t witness the death itself in a visceral way. However, when an MMA fighter gets his neck snapped or suffers some comparably catastrophic injury, it’ll be broadcast up close, in gorgeous Hi-Def, so everyone can see the puffy, bloodied, mostly naked human lose his life at the hands of another. If it happens before the country has had enough time to get used to MMA, this will scare the shit out of a very large portion of Americans.
They could argue it, and from logical standpoint they would likely be on very firm ground. Neither the reaction of the viewing public nor (potentially) of legislators would have anything to do with logic, however.
I agree, but given the right set of circumstances most of the country might not.
Well there is always the fact that Boxing is relatively uninteresting to watch and MMA is quite interesting to watch. That’s not a function of it being messed up ‘right now’. I’ve always thought boxing was kind of boring.
I think the country is pretty used to MMA at this point. I guess we just have to wait for Vanderlei Silva to kill someone. Somehow I feel like if it’s gonna happen it’s gonna be him, that guy is just fucking brutal.
Perhaps, but they’d also have the multibillion dollar industry aspect to contend with.
Eh, I don’t think so, but we’ll see.
I was referring to UFCwho appears to be the main MMA organization. Link includes a bit on the evolution of UFC rules.
If you want to kill MMA I suggest not watching it.
Isn’t it always like that? Make some silly joke thread, and three weeks later it’s at the top of the page with 33 responses. (And the serious threads about frivolous subjects are even more heated. Man who would’ve thought Dopers were so hard-line about sweeteners…)
Love Rhombus/Hotflungwok - Yes! Good point! I’m genuinely surprised this never came up, even as a joke. You’d think the closed guard alone would raise eyebrows, never mind the, ahem, “north-south position”.
Wasn’t part of Tank Abbott’s schtick homoerotic postmatch comments, or was it just that one time?
Chronos - Hey, I never said it was a genius idea. But with 40 states on board (and New York quickly warming up to the sport), what else has a snowball’s chance of any kind of results? If you ask me, the “Those guys could get killed!” argument was vastly more hypocritical, given the numerous recorded deaths every year in boxing. With card girls and raunchy commercials, you can at least claim precedent or giving the customers what they demand or whatever.
RickJay/MSmith537 - Believe it. Maybe not nearly as vocal now (you don’t hear crap like “human cockfighting”, “machetes”, and “two enter, one leaves” being flung around anymore), but there are still plenty of opponents out there. In fairness, most of them are against violent sports in general. And no, I don’t honestly expect my idiotic strategy to work, but you gotta admit, it’s pretty much the only thing that’s going to result in anything more than a 45-second blowoff on CNN. And not even that much if another pretty woman got murdered recently.
Justin Bailey - Rrrrg! I know! I know! MPSIMS (originally)! Not serious! (Sheesh, we’ve all forgotten how to have fun? I thought that was one of the ironclad message board no-nos.)
Heh. Heh heh. Ha. Ha ha ha HA HA HA HA Ha ha ha… oh, sorry. Godaamn that was funny.
How much controversy has boxing suffered over the years? Or any other sport? As long as MMA makes a ton of money, it isn’t going away.