The Pizza Wars

Good God, you guys! This is how World War One started!

I propose you emmulate Los Angeles, the land of diversity. Not only can I find great Chi or NY pizza within a mile of my house, there is also the best Mexican food in the world (yeah, even better than you get in Mexico), Thai, Chinese, Japanese, Greek, Italian, French (the best French restaurants are run by Cambodians) etc, etc, etc…

And don’t try to tell me our New York and Chicago style pizzas aren’t authentic. All our good pizza places were opened by transplants from your fair (though intollerant) cities.

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2) I am still mad about that Civil War thing. That no good Sherman burnt most of Atlanta and the surrounding area.

I’m still mad that Atlanta grew back. You Altanta folk don’t fare well against Yankees, do ya? (See next comment)

All over the Turner Corporation? Sorry, the Yanks are the greatest team in all of sports.

So America’s a bunch of chokers?

1996 Olympics,
Yeah, they went without a hitch.

Home of the WCW,
Trash Incorporated? It’s sad when the WWF looks down their nose at you.

UPS, Home Depot,
Organizations with ugly uniforms (brown and orange?)

But return to the orignal theme of cuisine:
It may be true that LA has many of the same ethnic restaurants that NYC has, but I’ve developed a habit of breathing. I’d have to kick that should I spend time in LA.

Alpha:

Oh please, what a tired cliche!

LA’s air is very significantly better than it was 30 years ago. (A fact I had long suspected, since I remember when I was child days when my eyes would burn and I would choke.) And better than a whole lot of cities out there. I distinctly recall NY, while certianly charming, being a cesspool of foul odor mixed with fine, nto to mention the filth everywhere, and plenty of smog. SMog that was trapped because there was no open space any damn where and the buildings were all too fucking tall.

Don’t talk to me about breathing and LA… at least we have a real outdoors to go to when we want to breath!


Stoidela

Thesaurus: An ancient reptile with an excellent vocabulary

Just don’t try to walk there.

Had to get in some LA bashing.
(Not sarcastic)- how is the new metro?

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(Not sarcastic)- how is the new metro?[/metro]

One step down from useless!

As much a we like the (pizza) contributions that NY and Chicago have made to LA, I must say that we owe another American city a much greater debt of graditude: Detroit!

Mybrain ain’t working quite right today. I’ll try again:

One step down from useless!

As much a we like the (pizza) contributions that NY and Chicago have made to LA, I must say that we owe another American city a much greater debt of graditude: Detroit!

I wouldn’t know about the metro, I’m a hardcore angeleno and I’ve got my own personal vehicle.


Stoidela

Thesaurus: An ancient reptile with an excellent vocabulary

I am still mad about that Civil War thing. That no good Sherman burnt most of Atlanta and the surrounding area.>>> Trekker 777

Hey, you know what they say, “War is Hell.”

If slavery had still been legal after the war, it would have been so much easier to clean up, wouldn’t it?


SoxFan59
“Its fiction, but all the facts are true!”

I would have preferred that he not have burned it down in the first place.

Jeffery

Yeah, most would have prefered that the south not try and seceed either, but we can see how foolish that conversation would be.

NY, Boston, and Chi-town - in that order, in my opinion. And having spent quite a while in LA, I gotta ask you PapaBear just what pizzeria you’re talking about in LA that is even edible ?

But surely, it isn’t just the location, as New Yorkers have tried to recreate pizza overseas (eg. a pizzeria in Hermosa Beach, CA) and fail.

I have heard a variety of theories: the water, the flour (should have a particular proportion of semolina in it), and interestingly, the West Coast’s use of Mexican oregano as opposed to the European variety commonly purchased in the NorthEast.


“Proverbs for Paranoids, 1: You may never get to touch the Master, but you can tickle his creatures.”

  • T.Pynchon, Gravity’s Rainbow.

Hey! Don’t call my city intolerant, you son of a bitch :wink:


“I guess it is possible for one person to make a difference, although most of the time they probably shouldn’t.”

I would have preferred that he not have burned it down in the first place.>> Trekker
(speaking of W.T. Sherman’s “March to the Sea” during the Civil War)

Is the Atlanta metro area suffering today because Sherman put the torch to the City 140 years ago? Here in the Chicago area, we don’t bear some deep seated animosity toward Mrs. O’Leary and the cow.

Perhaps you would have preferred that the Confederacy prevailed in that conflict? Besides the burned crops and real estate, the slaveholders lost their human property as well. Damn nasty mess, the Civil War. Northern oppressors taking away decent southern citizens’ property without due process of law. The very idea!


SoxFan59
“Its fiction, but all the facts are true!”

I been hearin’ a lot about cows and Chicago lately – not only do you not have a “deep seated animosity” toard them, it seems that you are now honoring them by spreading them out all over the city!

:slight_smile:

-Melin

I wonder if people in Italy have arguements about where to get the best New York Steak?

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But surely, it isn’t just the location, as New Yorkers have tried to recreate pizza overseas (eg. a pizzeria in Hermosa Beach, CA) and fail.

It IS the location, or more accuratly, the people at the location. Most people in California have never experienced real pizza. They’re so used to Pizza Hut and Dominoes that they won’t like anything that is too different than it, just like people in NY probably think that Taco Bell is real Mexican food. Same with hot dogs. Most people out here would rather have an Oscar Mayer than a real Chicago style dog. My dad ordered a “Chicago Dog” from a place in San Diego, and got some grilled…thing…with catsup on it. People here actually consider the Dodger Dog to be the best hot dog in town. To me, it tastes like a foot-long turkey tool.

I would have preferred that there had never been a thing such as slavery or the secession from the US or the War. I am glad Slavery was ended, though that was not the only reason for the secession or the war.

It is just when people from towns like Boston, say that Atlanta has no historical buildings, I want to remind them that it is because Sherman burnt everything.

Is it deep seeded animosity? No, I seldom give it any thought, only when it becomes a discussion of North vs South.

BTW, Mrs. O’leary’s cow causing the fire was an accident, Sherman’s was not.

Jeffery

Alphagene wrote:

At least we do not throw batteries and the like at the visiting players.

The 1996 Olympics went fairly well. The bomb was a problem, but those things happen. The things we were a part of were quite fun. It was a once in a lifetime experience that I will never forget.

How do you figure that WCW is Trash Incorporated? They do not stoop to the level of the WWF. Sure the WWF looks down on them, because people like the raunciness of WWF and the ratings show it, but WWF is much trashier than WCW.

They may have ugly uniforms but they dominate their respective businesses. Now that UPS has announced its plans to IPO, it should really take off.

I also, forgot Atlanta has the busiest airport in the country.

Jeffery

Excuse me, StrTrkr777, but if you wish to start a thread about the civil war or a general defense of Atlanta, feel free…

This is a talk about pizza specifically, with the side tangent of the culinary trends certain cities are known for (and the battles between them).

This obviously leaves out Atlanta. What is Atlanta known for food-wise anyway? The Big Mac? Sweet Tea?

I like The Buckhead Diner as much as anyone, but I don’t go there for the authentic Atlanta cuisine!


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<<<<I would have preferred that there had never been a thing such as slavery or the secession from the US or the War. I am glad Slavery was ended, though that was not the only reason for the secession or the war.>>>
Trekker

That’s a lot of bunk from southern revisionist history. It probably should be reserved for another thread, but I submit that slavery is the root of EVERY reason the Civil War happened.

<<<It is just when people from towns like Boston, say that Atlanta has no historical buildings, I want to remind them that it is because Sherman burnt everything.
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BTW, Mrs. O’leary’s cow causing the fire was an accident, Sherman’s was not.>>>> Trekker

You’re a youth are you not? As you get older you will learn to deal with New England style snobbishness. Phone your friends in Boston after the next January deep freeze, and ask em how much they're enjoying those historic buildings that day. Or better yet, ignore em. Atlanta has its own historic charm, and just because your ancestors didn’t come over on the Mayflower doesn’t mean you don’t have a heritage.

On the other hand, your statement that Sherman’s devastation was no accident is indeed true. But remember the ultimate cause of that destruction - - bull-headed sessecionists who wanted to destroy our country. It’s silly to blame the mosquitos for the bites when it was you who left the screen open.

Jeffery

SoxFan59
“Its fiction, but all the facts are true!”

Sorry Satan, but I will reply here to SoxFan and then if we need to we can create another thread.

First this is the BBQ Pit, so I felt like flaming a little.

To Sox, I was really just trying to stir up some fun. I am quite proud of Atlanta and I assume that most people are proud of their area of the country (at least if they have lived there all their life as I have).

I guess I am not sure what you consider to be a youth, I am 30. I still like to think myself as youthful, but hardly a teen. I believe I have learned to deal with people’s attitudes from all over. Again, I am proud of Atlanta and its heritage. I do not argue these things seriously with anyone, only in gest.

I did not think that you would take my statements so seriously, especially uttered in the Pit.

BTW, since I am only 30, I was not the one who was seceeding. Again, I said I wish slavery had never happened and there had never been a need for war.

Obviously, the South has something to offer, we have a growing number of transplants from all over.

Jeffery