The President's Physical.

Doesn’t banging porn stars count as being physical?

I don’t really object to that. One sign of intelligence is being able to effectively communicate to the lowest common denominator. Using big words doesn’t equal intelligence and can come off as pretentious. You can still get a point across with 4th grade vocabulary.

But I AM curious if that is the reason. I mean, I don’t know, I don’t know many people who’s actual intelligence decreased by age. I mean, I guess if he was an avid reader at one point (and he clearly isn’t now), that could make a difference in his vocabulary, but it’s hard to say.

Rear Adm. Jackson is certainly subject to direct orders coming from the Commander in Chief and I can’t imagine any medical board holding him responsible for following them. However, I’m having no trouble believing that President Trump is perfectly healthy for his age. (At 71, it’s not such a high standard.)

Anecdotally, I’ve experienced a few extreme narcissists, and they never seem to suffer from stress the way the rest of us do. Even though they are subject to these stunning rages, it just doesn’t seem to hit them the way it does people who really care about others. The stress just seems to wash right through them and stick to whomever they’ve aimed it toward. It’s a heckuva trick.

Trump’s inarticulateness isn’t just that he uses a 4th grade vocabulary. His grammar is mangled; he speaks in fragmented and often incoherent sentences; he repeats and/or contradicts himself incessantly; he rambles from topic to topic; and in general his speech is just a lot of word salad. By all accounts, he didn’t talk like that back in the day.

There is actually a certain sideways truth in that, though. The heart is kind of a fixed organ that does not experience any kind of real rejuvenation throughout its run. Not like other parts of the body. It has a finite capacity, and when it runs out, well, that is that.

Basically, it has x-billion beats in it before it wears out. The theory (I had an uncle who subscribed to it) is that exercising makes it beat faster, so you will use up your beat count faster. The flaw in the theory is that one cannot exercise all the time: working your heart makes it stronger, which means when (most of the time) you are at rest, it is thumping away much more slowly (it is strong, so it does not have to work as hard).

The balance seems to come out against being sedentary. Moreso when you realize that exercise is good for your head as well.

Fuck golf carts. They should be outlawed.

I think people in this thread are being a bit disingenuous about claiming the doctor straight up lied about Trump’s height. I mean I know he’s the president and all, but any time I’ve had a physical as an adult, it’s not like they pulled out the measuring tape. Generally when I’ve had a physical they have weighed me and just asked my height and wrote down whatever I said.

Trump seems to be somewhere between 6’1" and 6’2" in reality and has prob shrunken some, I don’t know that it’s necessarily fair to say he lied. Is his office in the White House similar to any other, with a nurse typically taking vitals and such, was the doctor even there for height and weight. People are really reaching. He honestly doesn’t seem particularly unhealthy given his age and he has access to the best medical care available. He may indeed have underlying heart disease, but it’s not like that would make it possible to remove him from office.

That really hasn’t been my experience- I can’t remember the last time I went in for a checkup and they didn’t measure me- even for the flu, or (most recently) some pain in my shoulder. Every time they’ve weighed and measured me before I even see the doctor. I’ve moved quite a bit, and have had doctors in five states so far, and as near as I can remember, they’ve all measured me.

Same here-When I go to the doctor I get my height and weight checked on their equipment, almost every time. If I were the President of the United States that would be the minimum I would expect to happen.

I completely disagree with what I can infer of the points you’re trying to make.

Every time I’ve had a physical, height and weight were measured as an important basic part of the process. It’s pretty ridiculous to “ask” someone their height when an accurate measuring device is usually right there as part of the same scale that weighs you, for the obvious reason that both things are usually measured at the same time.

As for “people are really reaching”, no. The entire “health report” has an unmistakable Trumpist braggadocio to it, as if he either wrote it himself or, more likely, dictated exactly what it must say. The high point of humor was the alleged “perfect score” on the cognitive test, which he is now cringe-worthily flaunting in speeches:
Discussing the issue of North Korea’s nuclear ambitions in an interview Wednesday with Reuters, Trump took a swing at his predecessors, former Presidents Barack Obama, George W. Bush and Bill Clinton, for their approaches to the rogue nation.

“I guess they all realized they’re going to have to leave it to a president that scored the highest on tests. What can I tell you?” Trump said.

“People are really reaching”? Yeah, maybe they’re reaching to try to convince themselves that this could all possibly be real and not a Saturday Nite Live skit.

But the doctor usually does not do the measuring. Some nurse measures height, weight, bp, etc, and writes it down for the doctor to review. If the Shitgibbon was groping the nurse, that might be why the numbers look skewed – hell, it might even explain why she wrote the doctor’s name down wrong.

Agree about weight but not necessarily height. I’ve never gone to the physician without a nurse weighing me (and checking my temperature and blood pressure*) but the nurse merely asks me for my height along with do I smoke or drink, have I fallen, etc. Mind you, I’m only 45 so I haven’t gotten into serious shrinkage :slight_smile: territory yet.

*Everyone seems to check my blood pressure nowadays. The dentist (actually, the dental hygienist) does it every time, as does the ophthalmologist. At least I don’t have to buy a blood pressure monitor. :slight_smile:

Trump was pretty athletic. The Phillies scouted him in high school.

Former athletes often have better health later in life.
https://www.google.com.ua/amp/www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/the700level/phillies-reportedly-once-scouted-donald-trump%3Famp

I’m 49 and go in every year and every year they take my height with me standing at the ruler on the wall. Apparently it’s in centimeters because last year’s converted to 5’7.99". Couldn’t they give me that last little bit??! It’s hurts because I used to be 5’10" and now I am less than 5’8". ::weep

And I don’t care if he’s fat, hell I’m huge. I care if he had someone lie about it.

From wolfpup’s link, he claims to have “one of the highest” IQs? I’m shocked he doesn’t claim to have the absolute highest ever recorded in the history of ever.

I guess the heel spurs put an end to that.

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My main point of conjecture was that Trump, in real and full effect, almost certainly wrote his own “health report”, which, again, I infer both from the ridiculous braggadocio tone of it, which is exactly the same as the previous “health report” produced by his personal quack, and from his general narcissism and constant bragging about his health and intelligence. I’m sure he has passable health for someone of his age who eats very poorly and never exercises, but I’m equally sure that the superlatives are Trump-directed fictions that bear about as much relation to reality as his claims about Obama’s fake birth certificate or the global warming hoax.

The previous comments about nurses and not measuring height I’ll just chalk up to different procedures in different places. I know for a fact that both my current GP and the long-ago previous one, now retired, did all the measuring themselves – height, weight, blood pressure, whatever. The involvement of a nurse sounds sort of like corporate workflow optimization in a multiple-practice medical consortium, leaving the doctors more time to tackle the stuff with the big billings. But surely when you’re examining the president of the US the doctor can take a few minutes to do stuff himself! That part is, in any case, a minor point.

Seems to me the discussion is focused on evaluating dubious statements in the evidence-based context of past events and the evidence-based history of the person in question.

Or, of course, you can just accept your guy’s hilarious claims without question as being the unvarnished gospel truth because, you know, he’s your guy. And he’s never lied to anyone! :smiley:

Empirically, he’s a fat slob who eats a lot of junk food, who gets little exercise, and who has elevated LDL. He’s also a proven liar on - well - almost every subject. It’s not difficult to reach some reasonable conclusions from that. Unless you’re you, of course.

A lot of young men found ways to avoid the draft. No one wanted to die in an unpopular war.

I am surprised a ROTC cadet, who played sports successfully gamed the system.

I’m curious to see if Trump slims down. It seems like his inflated ego would force him too. The press is very skilled at publishing unflattering pictures.

Its interesting that we haven’t had very many obese Presidents. Taft is the most well known.

Clinton battled his weight. Constantly jogging throughout his political career. Bush and Obama were very fit.