The Romney Tapes - thoughts as to how they'll affect the election?

Because I never claimed that voting Democrat means you’re on food stamps?

What we got was a peek inside Romney’s mind, nothing to do with the truth.

No he didn’t.

This from a man whose experience in foreign relations consists of licking Netanyahu’s boots. More telling was this quote:

He didn’t delve into it? He wants to be president and he has no fucking curiosity about a possible path to peace?

I’m part of Obama’s base. I don’t get entitlements. The New Deal worked. Get over it. Social Security and Medicare are wildly successful programs.

It isn’t nitpicking- Romney is simply revealing himself to be a condescending entitled pompous stupid twit.

Meh. You ran that play for no yardage in 2008. Remember Joe the Plumber?

Geez, Romney’s apologists remind me of nothing so much as the old Domino’s mascot “The Noid” in his never-ending and alway-failing battle to prevent pizzas from being delibered hot and fresh.

What bothers me in that is Romney repeating the tired bullshit about Reagan solving the Iranian hostage crisis. Reagan had absolutely nothing to do with it.

Correct. The deal was all worked out during the Carter administration. The Iranians simply waited till the clock struck noon on Inauguration Day to let them go, just to rub Carter’s face in it. The Gipper was oblivious to it all.

I agree Romney’s comments about Iran were wrong.

I also feel we have to pursue peace talks between Israel and the Palestinians. It does seem hopeless at times but we have to keep trying. There’s a new generation of leaders emerging and potentially new opportunities for a peaceful settlement. Romney’s comment about kicking the can down the road was just stupid.

Ok, that’s two points. Lets keep looking for that 75% you do agree with.

-The 47% of all Americans on the government teet are all Obama supporters.
-Elderly and children don’t take responsibility for their lives.
-His job is to ignore the needs of half of all Americans.

Which parts did you agree with?

The one where Obama’s supporters are the ones in the country who pay no income tax? Do you think that ALL of this 47% are Obama supporters like Romney says?

The one where Romney says his job is not to worry about the 47% who pay no income tax? Like retired folks on Social Security, students, people who work, but have lots of deductions, or the thousands who make over 200K a year but pay no taxes?

Do you agree with the one where Romney shows he has no understanding of immigration policy?

Do you agree with Romney’s plan for middle east peace?

Or even that the poor don’t take responsibility for their lives. Sometimes getting help IS taking responsibility- maybe if you get some financial help you can be home in the evenings and help your kids with their homework. Or take some classes yourself. Or breathe a little easier while you work hard to get back up. The idea that asking for help is a moral failing is baffling to me.

So who said this?

That is a direct quote from you. You are saying here that food stamp usage is higher in some statesbecause Democrats live in those states, as if voting Democratic somehow makes someone hungrier or more likely to need food stamps. Your claim at the beginning of this post is a completely different claim.

To be fair, Mitt Romney supports redistibution. He just wants it to flow the opposite way from the rest of us.

Romney made a good point that it is harder for Republicans to get elected. They do have a perception by voters for cutting entitlements. I don’t agree the entire 47% are against Romney. That seems like hyperbole.

Romney also makes a good point on immigration. I’ve personally seen a huge increase in my own city’s Hispanic population in the past 15 years. How many are legal? I have no idea. Our justice dept is blocking states attempts to find people illegally living here.

We do make it harder for professionals to immigrate here. We need more doctors for example. But a doctor from Europe or Asia can’t come here and work without extensive training to get licensed. It takes a long time to apply for a work visa.We are missing out on many professionals in all fields that would like to live here.

If there’s any profession for which I’d like to make absolutely certain that any practitioners (not just those moving here from other countries) get properly vetted, it’s physicians. Maybe you need a better example.

Medical schools in Japan, France, Britain, Germany etc. are on a par with the U.S. Some of the 3rd world Doctors would need additional training to work here.

There is a severe shortage of Doctors in rural America. Some people in my state drive 30 miles just to see a doctor. For specialists they have to drive a hundred or more miles. Foreign doctors need some recertification, but maybe we could simplify the process a little? Get the better trained ones here working faster.

Thats just one example of what Romney is talking about. Professional work visas should be easier and quicker to get. Cut the red tape.

This is probably a good one for another thread, but I’ve known several doctors from Slavic countries, one a neurosurgeon, that upon coming here, became nurses.

I don’t know if the requirements are so lenient in the other countries, that this is necessary, or the process to get certified in America is too rigorous. I’d love to get some more info on this.

My understanding is that graduates of medical schools outside the US or Canada are required to complete a residency in the US before practicing as an attending physician in the US. Wiki has some information here. Even if the physician has practiced for a number of years in the other country, they will still need to complete a residency in the US.

I imagine there might be a number of reasons why a non-US doctor would end up as a nurse or other provider here. It could be that the doctor was not accepted into a residency for whatever reason. Or it could be that they looked at the residency requirement, looked at nursing salaries, and at the number of working years left in their career, and said, “Fuck it. I’m NOT going through residency again.”

Well, they keep saying that’s what they’re going to do, and it’s the obvious consequence of some of their proposals (like Ryan’s guideline on federal non-defense spending). It’s hard to blame voters for coming to that conclusion.

Why would you have any idea, and why would you make this logical leap? That does kind of underscore the problem that Republicans are having with Latino voters and a lot of other minorities - that quick shift from “the Hispanic population has increased a lot” to "I bet a lot of these people are here illegally.

And the right wing of the Republican Party (that phrase is redundant at this point) has been killing any and all attempts at immigration reform for 10 years. Is that what they would do if they were serious about this issue? Just about everybody agrees there are major problems with the immigration system. The Republicans at this point have painted themselves into a corner and can’t come up with any actual solutions beyond “check people’s papers,” “build a fence,” and Romney’s “they should self-deport.”

That’s not an assumption, that was lifted verbatum from the article that stated the research from the 1980’s to now.

The research shows that those getting more social assistance are the Republican voters who may be poor and they need it.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/12/us/even-critics-of-safety-net-increasingly-depend-on-it.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1

So there’s a big myth out there that says a poor black man is the lazy moocher, since as Democratic voters they’re supposed to demand more social assistance. The truth is, social assistance is found in the RED states in higher porportions.

It could be because people have a greater ability to witness the results. My mom turned into a Republican after a stint of working at the welfare agency in her state.

Of course Red States should, by virtue of hiring Republicans, quickly lose their welfare-program excesses. That they haven’t is an indication that Republicans aren’t living up to their promise after they are elected.