My roommate for the last two years of college played ice hockey, which is Liberty’s main sport. Aside from having the least sporstmanlike players out there (and some downright dirty ones), if the NCAA were ever to investigate the school’s use of scholarship money to attract hockey players, there would be major sanctions imposed.
This is probably the school you have to go to after UNC rejects you for fucking up your senior year. Even though you have 1600 SAT and a letter of acceptance. After a year or two of penance, when you have learned “responsibility” then maybe you can transfer to a less stringent environment. Of course first you have to get SD approval.
You’d have to be extremely naive to actually enroll in this school without knowing what it’s all about. This is Jerry Falwell’s school, after all! It’s like enrolling in the Sorbonne and not realizing the classes were in French!
I have a hard time believing that a college bound student would be so clueless about the place she was going to spend the next 4 years of her life. Did she even bother to look at the website?
Here are some good links, BTW:
Nonsense. What’s been started can be finished somewhere else. Trust me. I spent a year and a half at a school that drove me nearly insane with depression. Would you rather I stayed there until I blew my brains out or make a change in my life?
I assure you, I am quite happy with my decision.
Isn’t the rule about not signing unsanctioned petitions a breach of free speech?
Other than that, yup, don’t like it, don’t go.
Or bring the place down from the inside. Whatever.
No, irishgirl; last I checked (oh, about a nanosecond ago), that school was a private enterprise and not an arm of the government.
From what I gather, Bob Jones isn’t acredited-is it the same with Liberty?
Anyone else wondering why they so prominently list suicide prevention in their ‘Liberty Life’ section?
First of all, just 2 years since she’s a transfer. Actually, just 1 semester now since she’s going to Salisbury in the spring. Second of all, it looked like a good school at the time. Third of all, JF is still an idiot.
It’s not like us poor Carroll County folk have dozens of thousands of dollars to spend for education. Living there out of state and just the cost of tuition alone is pricy. It’s been paid for and leaving would piss money away. Staying there with fines is still going to tax on some more cash for the cause of Christ but at least she’ll get the credits she needs. And i certainly wouldn’t want her to blew her brains out, i love her to death and try to offer encouragement to her. She is changing her life after this shitty semester. There, i said shit.
Well, my point still stands. A few minutes researching saves a lot of heartache.
If she decides to go into broadcasting as a profession, let her know about CBN and the 700 Club before she takes the offer.
Gee, maybe because suicide is the third leading cause of death in the US among 15-24 year olds?
Any school with a decent lawyer should have some kind of suicide prevention program unless they want to get the living daylights sued out of them when some kid kills themself and the kid’s parents find out that there was no kind of help for suicidal students.
I noticed their sexual assault policy. I’m surprised they don’t just say the girl was asking for it by wearing a skirt which shows her KNEES!!!
The school I went to had even stricter rules than these. Not only were we forbidden to see PG-13 movies, even * discussing * them was an offence which merited expulsion. (So was listening to, or discussing popular music, dancing or discussing dancing, reading “worldly” books or discussing about them . . . the list goes on.)
The adminstration declared that we were all “representatives” of the school, and thus any after-school behavior which violated school rules would be punished regardless of when or where it occurred. One boy in my class was expelled when it was reported that he had been seen wearing a t-shirt with a picture of a rap star over summer break.
There are, as has been noted, a number of Christian colleges which have similar codes of conduct, more stringent in some respects, less so in others. My nephew attended a college with similar standards with happiness and never chafed (in any serious way) against any of the rules nor find himself in any trouble except for failure of a dorm inspection because he neglected to vacuum his room for a couple of months and it showed.
In order to get into schools like Liberty, Bob Jones, Biola, Evangel, Grove City, Oral Roberts, Vanguard, etc. one must sign off on their agreement to live by the code. They also must sign off on their agreement with the school’s religious doctrine (at least to the extent that they will not actively act in a fashion that’s opposed to it) and have personal recommendations from their pastor and, in some cases, an additional adult who can vouch for their upstanding Christian nature.
Attending one of these schools doesn’t just happen, it’s something that someone needs to put a lot of effort into and even their own effort isn’t enough, on its own, to get them accepted. All the schools emphasize that they’re not for everyone, and those who aren’t prepared to live in what they call a “hothouse” environment need not bother to apply.
I can see being overwhelmed by the standards and recognizing that they’re not for you. I can also understand the ongoing discussion in certain progressive Christian circles about the difficulty that such standards present to young people who need to develop their own discernment about proper behavior instead of having it dictated to them even as legal adults in the college environment.
I can’t see complaining about rules that don’t affect you in the least on behalf of someone who took them on of their own volition. What’s the point? It’s like an OP complaining about the vows of silence taking by some Carmelite nuns. Does.Not.Compute.
Oh, and Lamar Mundane, there ain’t no CBN anymore. Pat sold out to Capital Cities and now it’s ABC Family.
Folks with this mindset are precisely the same people who opposed the removal of the commandments monument in Alabama.
Tell your friend to get out of there quick.
I’m upset along with her. Complaining and venting is the reason we have the Pit. Yes it was her volition, but there was zilch in the documents she got (i asked her mom for them) explaining these crappy reprimands and their monetary “donations.” Does. Compute. To. Me.
Already told her my friend.
This is a rule at my school, too. It doesn’t mean that one can never interact with anyone who has ever had any alcohol, but rather that one should not be around while others are drinking; if they are, they will be held partially accountable. We have a dry campus, though…
Now there’ s a word that’s a blast from the past (mid- to late 70s in my case).
The restrictions do raise the question as to the fuzzy lines between education, religion, and cult, but as long as no one is being forced to attend that particular institution, and public funds are not being diverted toward it, why shouldn’t the nutbars be permitted to confine themselves?
I was thinking about this again today when I was listening to my fine soundtrack of Papillon (Jerry Goldsmith—very lovely, melodic score). The movie Papillon is rated R.
A lot of beautiful, melodic film scores are for movies that are rated PG-13 or above. A lot of these film scores are adapted and played in a variety of places—like for “elevator music” or something. (Papillion, Dr. Zhivago and The Magnificent Seven are the first movies to come to mind; I know there are many more.)
So, these themes are played on a lot of “easy listening” or “musak” type radio stations, which (I am guessing) might be popular with some of the administration of the Bob Jones University (the one that has the “no soundtracks to PG-13 and above” rule).
Wouldn’t it be hilarious if someone “busted” an administration official listening to the theme to “The Magnificent Seven” or something? Hey, man, never can be too careful. That muzak version of the Dr. Zhivago theme might cause someone to burn in hell. You never know…
I mean, seriously! How many times do you think people have ignorantly listened to a tune that came from a PG-13+ movie, without even making the connection? I think that’s a rule that could be easily abused. (Especially if someone wanted to be really anal-retentive and was also a big film music buff.)