The SDMB Thanksgiving Hotline!

The countdown has begun!

We’ve got just days before Thanksgiving is here–and here’s your place for questions, family recipes, special turkey or meal hints, and funny holiday/family/cooking stories (like the time Great-aunt Hilda thought the bag inside the turkey was the “stuffing” that was already included).

Here’s a contribution:

To-Be-Thankful-for-Apple-Pie
One 9" apple pie

Filling:
5 Green apples–Granny Smith or Pippins, peeled, cored & sliced 1/4" thick.
1/2 cup sugar
1 vanilla bean
1 teaspoon cinnamon
1/2 teaspoon nutmeg
1/4 teaspoon ground clove
4 tablespoons butter
1/2 cup plain bread crumbs

Crust:
2 1/2 cups all-purpose flour
1 teaspoon sugar
1 teaspoon salt
2 sticks cold unsalted butter (ok to use salted butter, just use 1/2 teaspoon of salt instead)
1 Tablespoon cider vinegar
1/3 cup ice water
(have extra ice water on hand)

1 egg, beaten
1 Tablespoon water
To prepare crust (best done before starting on filling)

  1. Blend together flour, sugar, and salt.
  2. Add cold butter in large cubes, and cut into flour. Work butter until in pea-sized pieces.
  3. Sprinkle with cider vinegar, then add 1/3 cup ice water.
  4. Work dough lightly to absorb the water. If dough seems to dry, add more ice water by the tablespoon.
  5. Press dough with your hands–if it holds together, then it is ready. Your dough should look a little rough and crumbly–with large patches of butter dispersed through the dough (this is one of the ways to create a flaky crust)–if it is too smooth, the crust will be hard and heavy. * The trick to a great pie crust is to handle it as little as possible.*
  6. Divide dough into two discs, and wrap in saran. Refrigerate for at least one hour.
  7. Roll dough to size to fit pie pan. Best way to “transport” your dough to the pan is to roll it on your pin and then unroll it onto your pie pan. Trim excess dough around edges and save for decoration (if desired) Prick surface with fork several times. Add filling and cover with second layer of dough. Cut some small decorative holes (or just prick a few times with fork) to release steam. Flute edges, and use excess dough for leaves. Brush dough with egg wash–sprinkle with sugar for an extra-shiny crust.

*Note: try to keep your dough as cold as possible. If you notice your dough getting warm or too soft, pop it back into the refrigerator for a few minutes.

Filling:

  1. Split vanilla bean lengthwise and scrape out seeds. Add to sugar. Blend in cinnamon, nutmeg, and clove to sugar.
  2. In large bowl, add apple slices and toss in sugar mixture and bread crumbs until slices are coated.
  3. Fill prepared crust with filling. Top with cubes of butter. Finish with 2nd layer of dough and egg wash.

To bake prepared pie:
After filling pie, put in freezer for 10 minutes, to chill the crusts–it helps to make for a great, flaky crust.
Preheat oven to 450°
Pop your cold pie into the hot oven–this also helps with the crust.
Bake for approximately 45 minutes. If edges become too brown, cover with foil.

I’m giving this an unsolicited bump because I can’t believe that no one has Thanksgiving on his mind yet!

Or is it just me, thinking way too far in advance?

Got my plans all worked out. Going to brother-in-law’s and making HIM cook!

I have no clue what my family is doing, but we shall do something. :slight_smile: Maybe drop in on my sister, make her do all the work.

I saw this thread and got an instant mental flash of all 10,000-plus of us sitting down to Thanksgiving dinner together. Well, maybe all 150 or so of the regular posters.

Zenster: …so, it’s an organic, free-range turkey from a Kosher poultry farm. Brought it home live and killed it myself.

Chef Troy: Well, it certainly is delicious. How did you make the stuffing?

Zenster: Oh, I didn’t have to stuff it. It wasn’t empty.

Hey, thank you, thank you. I’ll be here all week.

Oh, Ike. You’re such a flibberti-giblet.

Ha! Good one Uke.
I haven’t recieved the official “to bring” list from my aunt yet, but I’ll probably make my favorite: Green bean casserole (you know, with those fried onions…Mmmmmm!) and maybe a pork tenderloin or something. psycat is in a baking mood, so will probably make a few pies.

Well, the Ps are driving down to St Louis for Turkey Day. I’ve been invited but the idea of driving to STL to share Thanksgiving with my Aunt’s boyfriend’s daughter’s family doesn’t exactly brighten my holiday. Not to mention that I’d probably be there for 3-4 days and be bored out of my skull. Since most of my friends will be travelling to see their parents for the day I’ll likely be sitting at home with a pizza and a beer. You know it didn’t bother me until I just typed this…

[sub]Due to snide insinuations that I couldn’t find stuffing with both hands and a flashlight, I will now subject all of you to my stuffing recipe for a third time![/sub]

Triple Sausage, Red Wine and Sourdough Stuffing
Stolen from Jim Newman in 1978

Preparation time: 2 Hours

Serves: 6-12 People
Ingredients:

2 Lbs. Chicken or turkey giblets
1 12 oz. Package of Jimmy Dean Sage Recipe Sausage*
1 12 oz. Package of Hillshire Farms Li’l Smokies*
2 6 oz. Packages of Swift’s Premium Beef Link Sausages*
2 12 oz. Packages of Thomas’ Sourdough English Muffins*
2 Loaves Sourdough French bread
2 Large eggs
1/2-1 Lb. Button mushrooms
4 Cloves Garlic
4 Shallots
3-4 Ribs Celery (plus leaves)
2 Cubes Butter
1-2 Yellow onions
1-2 Tsp Salt
1 Bottle Red wine
1 Tsp Ground celery seed
1 Tsp Ground sage
1 Tsp Ground thyme
1 Tsp Whole peppercorns
1 Bunch Parsley
1/2 Tsp Ground black pepper
Dash of Crystal hot sauce*

  • Do not substitute these products
    Preparation:

Make the croutons:

The croutons may be made days in advance if needed. I used English muffin croutons last year and they added an extra dimension of richness and texture to this already fantastic recipe. Preheat your oven to 250 F for twenty minutes. Cut the bread and muffins into cubes smaller than a 1/2". Cover a cookie sheet with a thin layer of bread cubes and bake until they begin to brown slightly. Remove from the oven and allow to cool completely before storing. Continue until all of the bread is used.
Make giblet stock:

Cook the giblets and those from the bird, including the neck, heart and gizzard in a large pot with 1-2 quarts if water and a tablespoon of salt. Do not use the liver when making the stock, it will darken the flavor in an undesirable fashion. Feel free to add a clove of garlic, a spoonful of chopped onion and the peppercorns to the broth. Reduce over a fast simmer until a few cups of liquid are left. If the giblets are very tender after cooking, some of them may be chopped up and used in the stuffing. Tinned chicken broth may be substituted but it will not have the rich flavor of freshly made stock. Strain off the stock and reserve it for later use.
Cook off the sausages:

This may be done the day before. Crumble the Jimmy Dean sausage into pieces the size of your finger tip and fry until golden brown. Remove the fried sausage and add the whole Swift’s Premium link sausages to the grease and fry until browned. When draining any of the sausages, do not press down on them as this will leave them too dry. The little smokies should not be cooked before hand or they will lose a lot of their moisture. When the sausage is finished cooking, drain off the grease and add the red wine. Use a good quality wine. A zinfandel like Ravenswood Vintner’s Blend or Sutter Home will do nicely. Reduce the wine to half its volume so that you have about two cups remaining. While the wine reduces, scrape the pan in order to deglaze it. Pour off the wine and reserve it for future use.
Prepare the stuffing:

Preheat a pan over medium heat and add half a stick of butter. Slice the mushrooms thinly and add to the pan. Continue to cook the mushrooms until they have released a lot of liquid. Pour off this liquid and reserve it for later use. Add more butter or broth to the mushrooms and continue to saute until lightly browned. While the mushrooms cook, parboil the celery. I am of the school that believes stuffing should not have really crunchy items in it. When prepping the celery, detach a rib from the bunch. Grasp the leafy top of the rib and bend backwards to snap it. Then pull down along the back of the rib to remove the strings from it. Chop the ribs into medium thin slices and parboil them. Use some of the giblet stock to cook the celery briefly until it loses its crispness. Be sure to add some of the leaves from the heart of the celery bunch. They will carry a delightful perfume into the stuffing.

Once the mushrooms are finished cooking, transfer them into a very large bowl. Peel and chop the shallots and onions. Place them in the frying pan with a little butter if needed. Cook them until they are translucent and then add the chopped or crushed garlic. Do not brown the onions or the garlic, this will ruin the stuffing. In the large bowl begin to add the other ingredients. Chop the link sausage and add it to the mushrooms with the crumbled sausage. Chop the parsley and add it too. Once the onions, shallots and garlic are finished add them to the bowl as well. Add the spices and fold the mixture to distribute them. Include a little over half of the little smokie links whole and continue to mix. Avoid breaking up the sausage too much.

You are now ready to add the croutons. Before doing so, crack the eggs into a small bowl and beat them well. Fold the croutons into the mixture and be careful to avoid breaking up the ingredients too much. Combine the reduced red wine with a cube of melted butter, 2 cups of the giblet stock and the liquid from the mushrooms. Drizzle this over the stuffing until everything evenly moisturized. At this point, the stuffing may be held at room temperature for a few hours if needed. If you add the eggs to bind it, you must begin cooking it right away. I do not recommend refrigerating the stuffing as this congeals it and can add an undesirable density it.

After binding the stuffing with the eggs, wipe the interior of an over proof pot with melted butter or oil. Fill it with the stuffing but avoid packing it down in any way. If needed, use two pots to accomplish this. Bake for ~30-45 minutes covered and then remove the lid and allow it to brown for another fifteen minutes. Dot the surface with bits of butter during the browning for the best results.
Note: I do not recommend filling the bird with stuffing. Too often, the juices of the bird will make the stuffing soggy and leaden. For the best results, rub the exterior and interior of the bird with a mixture of salt, pepper, ground thyme, ground sage, garlic and onion powder plus ground celery seed. Before cooking the bird fill the cavity with one or two peeled potatoes, onions, shallots, cloves of garlic and ribs of celery or the celery heart. If you have used fresh herbs, feel free to toss in a small bouquet of them as well. These ingredients will perfume the bird while it roasts and the cooking time will be shorter due to the lack of filling.
Turkey Hints: Buy a hen turkey, they are moister. Always baste the bird with butter. Be sure to squirt some of the basting liquid into the cavity every so often. Keep the bird tightly covered until the last half hour of roasting. Remove the foil and increase the heat by 25-50 degrees F. Baste it frequently during the final hour.

Be sure to allow the turkey to rest for a minimum of 20 minutes before carving it. This allows the bird to reabsorb the juices that were released during the roasting process. While the bird rests, use the pan drippings to make the gravy and finish baking the stuffing. When carving the bird, do not miss the “oysters”. They are underneath the bird, in between the legs and the body along the back. These two small pieces of meat have the very finest flavor of any cut from the entire fowl.

This recipe continues to receive rave reviews from all who taste it. Last year, people who did not even like stuffing tried this and were instantly won over. If you are pressed for time on the big day, merely make the ingredients ahead of time as the recipe suggests. I have done this quite often and the end product does not suffer in the least.

As I told you before, Zenster, this recipe is almost perfect but needs the inclusion of a peeled, cored, chopped Granny Smith apple to be all it can be.

Also, I noticed your damnyankee method of measuring butter. For the benefit of the rest of the country, a “cube” of butter is called a “stick” of butter most places. Either way, a cube (or stick) of butter is equivalent to 1/4 pound or 8 tablespoons.

Chef, I couldn’t agree with you more. I have a nice sausage-apple stuffing recipe that is to die for. Everyone I know who has tried it was kinda grossed out by the idea, then got hooked after a bite.

Chef Troy: This is the most delightful toad-in-the-hole I’ve ever tasted! However did you do it? What’s the secret?

Zenster: {whispers into Cheffie’s shell-like ear}

Chef Troy: {Eyes widen, rushes from room}

Well Chef Troy, I’m seriously considering the addition of some apple this year. Since BigFriendlyGiant and myself will be whuppin’ up a monster batch of the stuff (as it were), I’ll probably make a little of it with some apple.

However much I enjoy Granny Smiths, I will be forced to go out and look for some “Black Twig” apples to use. If you have never tried them, they are a “heritage” strain and have the finest flavor I have ever tasted. Imagine how apples used to taste when you were a child and that is how these taste. Absent the Black Twigs, I will use a Granny Smith though. I’ll probably have to parboil the cubes of apple before adding them just to avoid the “crunchy bits” syndrome in my stuffing.

Anyway Cheffie, enough of the criticizin’ and more contributin’ m’kay?

You guys take a break from all your cooking for a minute.

Just before Thanksgiving, dad makes a call to his son. “I hate to tell you, but we’ve got some troubles here in the house. Your mother and I can’t stand each other anymore, and we’re getting a divorce. I’ve had it! I want to live out the rest of my years in peace. I’m telling you now, so you and your sisters shouldn’t go into shock later when I move out.”

He hangs up, and the son immediately calls his sisters and tells them the news. One of the sisters says, “I’ll handle this.”

Sister calls dad and says “Don’t do ANYTHING till we all get there! We’ll be there Wednesday night.”

“All right”, says dad.

He hangs up the phone and hollers to his wife, “Okay, they’re coming for Thanksgiving. Now, what are we going to tell them for Christmas?”

Does anyone have a good chestnut stuffing recipe? I had an aunt who used to make a great version of this, but she’s gone now and the recipe is now lost to history. Something light on onions would be nice, as my brother refuses to eat them.

As for Thanksgiving stories, there’s always the year when we peeked in the oven and saw that, contrary to the laws of physics, the turkey had somehow cooked itself in half the time we had expected. Much hilarity and hurried preparation of side dishes ensued.

Keep in mind that you’re supposed to “pluck” the Turkey, and not “phuck” the Turkey. The ladder may alter the properties of the stuffing.
:::d&r:::

I can easily believe that the addition of a ladder to the stuffing can have disastrous results.

PS: Where the hell did you learn to cook Silo?

I hope all of you enjoy your Thanksgivings because I will be working. :frowning:

All of this talk of food is making me hungry.

I am having some vegetarian friends over. Almost all the Thanksgiving recipes I know include turkey-giblet stock (except the sweet potatoes).

Anyone know a good, hearty vegetarian main dish to serve alongside the turkey and stuffing? It should taste good and not be too complicated – I’m going to have a lot to do that day.

Thank you in advance for your ideas.