The SIH (Suffer in Hell) Thread

Not surprising or odd to me, in the least.

Hiding the date of her death is what I find odd. Protests or celebrations would be the norm.

I am surprised her family had the foresight to realize this was a possibility since they are likely just a bigoted and she was.

Because you presume that they’re bigoted, you also presume that they have no thinking ability at all?

Whether or not her family shared her bigoted, hateful viewpoints, they would have undoubtedly realized that news of her death would potentially be celebrated by the gay community that she’d vilified, and could lead to public protests at the funeral.

Why do you find it odd or surprising that they would conceal news of her death until after the funeral, if they wanted to avoid having that going on during her funeral, which they would, presumably, have wanted to be a quiet, private ceremony, and not a circus?

She had a gay granddaughter.

I’m not sure why you are taking what I said and wildly overreacting to it.

Concealing her death for this length of time is weird.

Anita Bryant led a “grassroots” campaign to remove gay teachers from Florida classrooms.

An otherwise forgettable, interchangeable personality who’d perform on Lawrence Welk or at LBJ’s funeral.

However: her husband told her “what gays do,” and after that revelation, she was a woman on a mission.

I can forgive her for having been born into perhaps the last generation of women innocent of the particulars of homosexuality. I can actually applaud her for, however misguided, her impulse to “do something although I’m just a woman.”

But at the root of this was a man (in her case a Miami disc jockey) inspired to show a woman something nasty. Because women are the innocent ones, there for men to show the world as it really is. Tell them something “dirty,” or make them do something “dirty.” They don’t have the agency. Men do.

Yes she did. But it doesn’t sound like Bryant ever accepted this.

Insisting that it’s somehow “odd” that the family of a (justifiably) hated public figure, who would want to be able to mourn and bury her without the hoopla and public anger that would have likely ensued, had they immediately announced her death, is what’s weird here. As is believing that somehow bigots wouldn’t have the foresight to think of doing that.

Keep overreacting to what I said if that’s what you must do.

In my experience people like Bryant and their ilk absolutely lack the foresight to consider how those who disagree with them think or will act.

I’m not overreacting; I’m just boggled by your belief. But, you do you.

At a minimum you seem to think bigots are likely to consider how their bigoted beliefs may affect the people they are persecuting and how those people will react. That isn’t how it works in my experience.

But hey, you do you.

Didn’t her anti-gay crusade pretty much kill Bryant’s career? I just remember her being the butt of jokes when I heard her mentioned at all in the 1980s.

Yep, she didn’t get much work after the 80’s and fell out of the spotlight for a long time. When the story about her granddaughter coming out and getting married came out in 2021 I remember being surprised Bryant was still alive.

Different experiences? Bryant sounded to me more like someone who didn’t care how her opponents would react.

And anyway none of that prevents there being someone else in the family able to persuasively argue for keeping it low profile.

She told her to pray the gay away, IIRC.

When comedian George Gobel was asked on the Hollywood Squares what Bryant did in the talent competition in the Miss America pageant (she sang), Gobel replied, "Punched the hairdresser).

Oh, Jesus Christ, don’t try to make her the victim in her own hate campaign. “At the root of it” she was a nasty, bigoted piece of shit, and nobody owns that except Anita Bryant.

I am reminded of an old joke:

Hitler asked a fortune teller, “When am I going to die?” She answered, “On a Jewish holiday.” “How can you possibly know this?” Hitler asked. She answered, “Any day you die will be a Jewish holiday.”

She was also an outspoken opponent of divorce, until she got divorced.

Oh she was a terrible person, to be sure. But please grant us the right to understand without judgement; if for no other reason than the other side judges without understanding.

And yet, she did compare a same-sex relationship as unnatural as a sexual relationship with a Great Dane. About which Ms. Dagmar Cohn would herself take issue