nah, nobody got physical beyond a little should rubbing as he was trying to leave. I would much rather have been him than a lone bruins fan in a montreal pisser, tbqh.
Yes, because clearly there’s nothing to be embarrassed about in that video since they didn’t “get physical” :rolleyes:
All they did was yell at the guy… besides, you have to question anyone’s judgement wearing an opposing team’s “colors” to a home playoff hockey game… cheer for your team all you want in the stands, but expect a sh*t storm once you leave the seating area… I know everyone has a right to do/wear what they want, but for me it’s not worth the hassle.
Wearing the opposing team’s jersey doesn’t excuse their particular choice of taunts.
“All they did was yell at the guy?” Homophobic and sexual slurs, pushing him around and trying to prevent his exit (nevermind the videorecording in a washroom, which I’m pretty sure is illegal everywhere) is no big deal? What the fuck planet do you live on?!?! There’s no defence for this kind of action other than assholishness and bigotry, and if the Habs fan hadn’t had the class and composure to keep silent and go on about his business, this could have turned violent. You really think a fucking mob surrounding someone is ok just because they’re at a hockey game? That’s insane.
Indefensible. And before anyone trots out tired old “points” about Montreal riots, please note that I’m not stupid enough to defend the morons who make my team, other fans and this city look bad. Defending this kind of behaviour is boorish and classless. It’s unacceptable, no matter where it happens.
I am not a doctor. I did not examine Halpern. I don’t know why he was back on the ice a couple of shifts later, or why the 15 mins rule didn’t apply. It doesn’t invalidate the point that the hit was dangerous…again, trying to defend dangerous actions because the victim was lucky enough to avoid serious injury is ridiculous.
Spacek was asked about that, and he simply said he decided to wait for the trainers because he didn’t want to risk further injury, as he took time to assess how he felt. Sounds kind of smart to me - seems a lot of injuries can be aggravated by putting weight/moving when immobilization is best, but that’s just IMHO.
Once again, though, you are defending a dangerous and avoidable hit based upon the extent of the injury to the person who got hit. That’s insane, and unacceptable in real life, so why defend it now?
Sure, call that a dive by Subban…what do you think you’ve just won? Will you ever admit that players on your team dive too? Campbell throws himself on the ice nearly every time he loses a battle against the boards. Did you see that, or want to see it, while watching Boston games? Do you see Kelly flopping whenever his leg brushes against anything else, particularly if he’s in front of the net? They all do it. Montreal does it. Boston does it. Tampa does it. Pittsburgh does it (Letang actually got called for it last game). Nashville, Detroit, Vancouver…do you really need me to name all 30 fucking teams here? You can keep taking digs at one individual player or one team but have the sense and respect to recognize that players on every team dive if they feel it will give them an advantage.
But feel free to ignore the point I’m actually making in favour of insulting my team…
Yeah, like that. :rolleyes:
I didn’t listen carefully, so I didn’t hear the specifics… don’t equate this with the bigoted “she was asking for it” argument justifying a sexual assault, but this is entirely preventable… do not wear your team colors outside of your home stadium… otherwise you are asking for trouble… while I am not one to taunt anyone, disgusting human nature, men drinking too much beer, and group dissipation of responsibility all suggest that you are going to have to take some shit from the opposing fans.
In this case, yes it was wrong, but knowing people are not going to change, it was avoidable.
That is quite frankly ridiculous. I’ve worn “enemy colours” dozens of times without incident. There’s no reason sports fans shouldn’t be expected to behave like human beings.
That…is so absurd I don’t even know how to address it. You are seriously suggesting that people deserve to be harassed, endure homophobic slurs and seriously risk assault because they cheer for a specific sports team? It’s a goddamned SPORT. People wear other teams’ jerseys at all kinds of games - I saw a Canucks jersey and many Boston jerseys at the MTL-BOS Game 4 I was at! I’m pretty sure no one called them gay, faggots, pussys or other slurs or formed a mob around them in the washroom or otherwise harassed them. And if they did, I would not defend it. And I will equate it to the “she was asking for it” argument, since you brought it up; no one deserves to be mobbed, insulted, assaulted or potentially fear for their own safety because of the clothes they are wearing.
Seriously, what planet do you live on? I can’t believe you’re actually defending this shit. “In this case” it was wrong…in every case it’s wrong!
Agreed, especially in North America. It’s a fucking game people.
I can’t see the Youtube link here, but I think I’m getting a pretty good idea what happened. Stuff like this does happen occasionally, a Buffalo fan got punched here in Ottawa a couple of years back I believe.
For the most part people are cool with razzing each other and having some fun with it. But, alas, there are assholes to be found everywhere: hockey arenas included.
I am not defending nor condoning thug, homophobic, slanderous, or otherwise asshole/douchebag-like behavior. I also would never participate in such behavior. However, knowing that the best predictor of future behavior is past behavior, and that people tend to act like assholes when they are males, drinking, and in large groups, I would opt not to do anything that might invite such behavior.
While I would like to think there is common respect and decency in society, having lived in Toronto for 1 year and the Northeastern US for 40+, there is a far greater sense of such respect and decency north of the border.
Yes, the behavior is wrong, and yes, it is inexcusable. However, knowing it is a reality in our society, it would make more sense to avoid the problem (i.e., not wear your team’s jersey) than to expect assholes to act like better humans.
I think that the Boston fans were totally out of line - especially with the shoving going on. If you are suggesting that this passes for acceptable behavior in the US Northeast than I’m very glad I don’t live anywhere near it.
Hey Boston, it is called tourism when a fan from another City comes to yours to see a game. Might want to check into how that can help the economy of your city and your team.
Seriously. I have a friend who lives in Boston - I was thinking of going for a visit this summer, but given as how I’ll assume half the Boston population is male and some might be drunk, and I have an accent and Quebec plates on my car… I wouldn’t want to aggravate the masses, you know? I’ll spend my money elsewhere.
Unbelievable. And Bruins fans get all pissed off when accused of being classless. We live in a very strange world indeed.
Whoa. We’re talking one incident and a few fans. I’ve been to baseball, hockey, and basketball games in Boston and haven’t seen anything similar. Don’t paint every Boston fan with that broad brush: they’re actually a pretty decent lot.
She was sarcastically over-reacting to:
to illustrate the silliness of the statement.
:smack:
Missed that.
Take a wild guess, then.
Hockey is dangerous. But flopping is weak.
Rofl! He didn’t even twitch.
It was boarding, sure. But Spacek’s acting job drew a major, a goal, and a win.
You are defending flopping based on the uniform the flopper is wearing. That is, well, not insane, just blind. And making that claim with a straight face only makes you look foolish, too.
I haven’t won a thing. Subban didn’t either, although he tried his best to “win” the game for his team, just like Spacek did.
“Too”? Haven’t you just been saying your guys didn’t do it at all? 
The refs got intimidated by the hometown crowd. That happens in sports, but professional officials do their best not to. They let the crowd make the calls instead of just ignoring flopping the way they should, which would prevent it from happening later on in the game. The Habs found that it worked, that it was their only way to win, and did more of it. Shame on the refs for allowing it.
This has to be one of the stupidest things I’ve read on the Dope yet. So if I go to an away game, I’m not supposed to wear my team jersey? Fuck that! I see plenty of people wearing the visiting team’s colors at CEC games – why shouldn’t they show their team spirit?
Screw it. If I go to an away game, I’m wearing my Letang jersey, and if anyone has a problem with it, they can kiss my black and gold ass. 
(If you go and look at pictures from the 2009 Stanley Cup Championship final, you can see tons of people dressed in Pens gear at Joe Louis Arena.)
Ugh. I made it about five minutes into the Wings/Sharks game before I concluded that the zebras are fucking blind. Hooking, holding, slashing, whacking, tripping, and some iffy hits are all just going right by 'em. :rolleyes:
Can we please just get a standard for the whole of the playoffs? Please? I’ll be extra super good and clean my plate even the vegetables no I didn’t just give them to the dog (this time) I promise. Just please give us the same calls throughout the playoffs.
They were letting so much shit go, but then there was the offsetting minors to Pavelski and Howard for nothing, and then a suspect slashing call. Blind goes both ways, I guess.
Actually, no. I didn’t say that at all.
In light of this I must consider two possibilities.
The first is that you are actually unable to read, and your posts are just some weird probabilistic coincidence in which random banging on a keyboard happens to resemble hockey-related English words. Think infinity+monkeys+typewriter = Shakespeare. I think this is highly unlikely, but one in a bazillion happens once in a bazillion tries, right?
The second is that you are willfully and deliberately ignoring what I have actually written in favour of what you think you want to hear in order to make a weak-ass point or win an argument. In so doing you prove yourself to be disingenuous and disrespectful. This seems to me to be more likely. I didn’t think you’d take this seriously:
Either way, there’s clearly no point continuing to try and converse with you, and so I will not be addressing your other questions/points/arguments. I am done with you.