The Straight Dope Harley Review

Today, it was the day for my Maiden Ride. Having succesfully passed my motorbike exam two weeks ago, it was now time to put the skills to the test.

Spiny Norman, accompanied by his lovely passenger Shayna, and myself rented a couple of Harley Sportster 883’s, and headed out northwards over the Pacific Coast Highway. We then cruised through Malibu Canyon, Mulholland Highway, and another canyon that lead us back onto PCH again.

All nice and dandy, you say. Well, for us it was a bit of a first. My first time out on the road, and Spiny’s first time on a Harley. We wanted to know if all those stereotypes about Harleys are true: can’t knock’em 'till you’ve tried them, right?

So there you go, a review of the Sportster 883.

Power: disappointing. It has 56 BHP, admittedly not a lot, but your average rice bike will be much faster with an equal amount of power. In its defense, the V-Twin offers a lot of torque in the low rev area, so cruising 40 MPH in 4th is no problem whatsoever. Still, swift canyon riding required a lot of downshifts to keep the beast going.
Gear Shift: KLONK! That’s the sound it makes. Whether the engine is cold or warm, whether you’re shifting to first or to fifth, the sound is ENORMOUS. The controls are really heavy (both clutch and shift lever), and the bike is not a pleasant ride in stop-and-go traffic.
Brakes: I’ll say it like it is. Frightingly bad. Mine had about 14K miles on the clock, and the bike was well serviced, so that can’t be it. But this thing has just too little stopping power for a bike of this weight.
Suspension: WAY too soft for my taste. It even bottomed out a few times on a few dips and bumps, at surprisingly low speeds.
Cornering: Me: “Dear Harley Davidson. I hereby register my formal request to turn left at the next traffic light. I shall know commence steering to the left, and leaning you over ever so slightly.”
Bike: “sigh, oh what the hell, sure, I’ll bounce you through that corner alright. Just don’t expect any miracles. Hey, can you feel how long my wheelbase is compared to those wimpy Japanese bikes??”
Suffice it to say the Sportster is not a good bike for throwing around corners. :wink:
Seating Position: Owww, my back hurts. The handle bars are too high (or the saddle too low, I forget ;)), my knees were way up, you almost automatically slouch when you sit on it for longer than 5 minutes.

Other Negative Points: [ul][li]No rev counter[/li][li]No fuel gauge[/li][li]No daytrip counter[/li][li]Weird indicators that are operated on either side of the handle bars (especially the right one is difficult to operate without messing up your throttle control)[/li][li]Indicators appear to turn off automatically after 5 seconds when the bike is in motion (no, I do NOT consider this a good thing)[/ul][/li]
Positive Points: [ul][li]Handy saddle bags that accomodate an extra helmet, a lot of locks, a map book, your hair dryer, an espresso machine…[/li][li]The sound! Especially Spiny’s one, with the aftermarket exhaust pipes. My goodness, what a roar.[/li][li]Yes, there is such a thing as the Harley Feeling.[/ul]Both Spiny and I agreed that there was something about the bikes that made them special, despite all our criticism. Hard to put into words, but yeah, I can understand why people love’em. Would I buy one for everyday use? Nah, it’s not for me. But it was a great experience nonetheless. The bikes are in the garage, waiting for another morning tour of the canyons before we return them to the rental agency.[/li]
I can’t wait to fire it up again in the morning. :smiley:

Oh, something weird though. NOBODY waves at you when you ride a Harley Sportster (and yes, I did wave at all of them!). The guys on the Japanese or Italian bikes pretend to ignore you, and a passing Harley Lowrider just looked at me with disdain before he downshifted and sped off. Too Harley for the other brands, too little Harley for the real hogs, I suppose. Oh well. :wink:

Welcome to the Hell that is the 883. They used to have thimble-sized fuel tanks, too, adding to the pain and suffering. The Big Twins are much better (although the cornering and braking will never rival the sport bikes) and you get a passing nod from the Lowriders of the world. More comfy, too. I cannot sit on one at all without eating my knees. Next time, maybe go big for a day? Glad you guys got out up the PCH, my trip south was not nearly as nice as that one.

Nobody buys a Sportster for comfort or refinement. Hell, I don’t know anybody that would actually buy a Sportster. Very poor choice for a Harley to rent or for a first impression of the brand… but I gather you didn’t have much of a choice of a style to rent though, eh? :slight_smile: Good thing it wasn’t 30+ degrees C outside or you would know what it feels like to ride a blast furnace. The ones I’ve ridden seem to get way to hot for comfort.

I pretty much ditto UncleBills’ statement.

If it wasn’t for the 883 racing series, I’d say H-D should drop the 883 all together. Next time get a 1200 like the others said braking/turning/weight will still be lacking but at least you’ll have a little more power to use. Or better yet rent a Buell and get a taste of “rice”. That would be like Uncle Bens’s or something.

To wave or not to wave, that is the question. 95%+ of sport bike riders will wave (a wave is not always a wave, it could be a simple nod or a “yeah I see ya” gesture) to each other. If someone waves to me and I see it in time I’ll wave back, unless they are on a scooter. Most Harley guys only wave to other Harley guys. YMMV.

Why don’t you wave to scooters?

Elitist bastard!

:slight_smile:

I owned an 883 for many years, and liked it. Some H-D riders will refer to is as a “girl’s bike”. I’ve known some couples where he had a Heritage Softtail and she had an 883 made up to look like a Heritage with a big tank and saddle bags. I agree with pretty much everything said here so far. I had forward controls on mine, but being 6’5" I still looked like I should be delivery pizza on it. The small tank wasn’t a problem because I didn’t want to ride more than 80 miles without getting off for a break!

A couple years ago I did courier work at an air show. We had some loaner bikes to use, and I had my Harley there. Alot of the riding was thru the crowds on the static display side. With the jap bikes people would just step in front of me even if they were looking right at me. With the Harley I’d just blip the throttle and the crowd would part like the Red Sea. The down side was that I could only do one run per hour since it over-heated quickly at walking speeds.

Well…I wave to anything with two wheels and a motor. Even cop bikes. The 883 is an 883, not a typical harley. The guy on the lowrider was a putz. If you could get ahold of a softail, you would probably have a bit more fun with it. I ridden a few of them, and I love the way they handle. You almost dont have to put your feet down at a light.

I wave at pretty much everything on two wheels. Yesterday, I got a nod back from a harley rider, and almost dropped my bike out of shear surprise. Maybe it was a rental or something?

i made my boss double over with laughter when i told him the sound of a harley shifting was “like a toolbox falling down a flight of stairs”

your review was pretty much on for that bike, and pretty damn close for the entire product line (except for the new v-rod, which is the only hd i have not ridden). the major difference being, as the weight of the bike goes up, the brake performance goes down.

they are still kinda fun to ride, especially when they belong to someone else! (reminds me of the saying “scooters are like fat girls, fun to ride until your friends see you”. well, harleys are like lesbian showgirls-- not worth a shit to ride, but they look good just hangin’ around!)

i now expect the wrath of bdgr.

Why is a Harley Davidson like a homosexual?
They’re kinda pretty, but I don’t want to throw my leg over one.

Your damn right I…oh hell…my hearts just not in it tonight…I think I’ll just go lay down for a while…

Coldy If full size Harleys are a bit heavy you might try one of these

http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/7029/minimm.htm

Try out the indoor racing if there is a track nearby, these are a bigger blast than even the R1.

If one wanted a cruiser type that did all the things one might reasonably expect of most bikes then one would take a close look at the F6C but Harley riding isn’t a rational thing, its more than about the metal, but other bike owners could say similar things about other bikes, not much is sensible on the Ducati MH900.

http://www.koups.com/sales/ducati/specs/2001/2001_Ducati_mh900.htm
I’ve seen pretty good reviews of the Sportster which might be more suited to the European outlook.

First of all, I’m deadly envious of the roads here in California. Milibu Canyon, Mulholland Drive - whoah. I’ll need to put the Duc in my luggage next time I’m here.

I’m a bit of a sportsbike weenie, so I went with the Sportster in order not to overdo it, so to speak.

Let me be frank: I didn’t expect to like it. And while I agree with most of Coldie’s criticisms, I still had a ton of fun, once I got to know the handling a little better. I got the last one they had in the shop, with feet-forward controls - that was a novel feeling. Not a concept I’m going to emulate :wink:

What’s with that friggin’ clutch ? It takes the Jaws of Life to operate, and this is a Duc 748 rider speaking, here. Or perhaps I had a bum bike ?

Anyway, comfort never was high on my priority list - there was a good bit of vibration (a rearview mirror shook loose) and a good bit of heat, but both absolutely liveable-with. The riding posture is a bit - ehm - weird.

The engine has a nice low-rev grunt, and the sound is great - I had aftermarket pipes on my bike. There’s a slight delay in throttle reactions.

The handling is different, but adequate, and it’s a nice ride in traffic. Excellent for 50 MPH cruising. Those brakes, though…

All in all, not a great ride, but for some reason still a very enjoyable one. Makes one think of the old MG Spitfire sportscar: It’s not comfortable, it’s not competitive, it’s not modern. It is charming as all hell.

Would I like one ? Perhaps not a Sportster, but a HD would be fun to own - to tinker with and to ride when the mood strikes.

Would I buy one ? Nope. But I do understand those who do.

S. Norman