The Straight Dope on the Mayan Calendar

Well, suppose that you’ve created two particles that are linked, such one is always “true” and one is always “false”, i.e. they alternate between two distinct states, but always in instant opposition to each other, despite being light-years apart. The problem is, the very act of interacting with one of the particles (i.e. reading it) alters its state. So you create particles A and B and want to give your buddy the answer to a true/false question. Is A true and B false, or the other way around? If you check A, you’ll change it. If you send it to your buddy and he checks it, he’ll change it. If the particle interacts with any other particle along the way, it’ll change. Try to send a “true” to your buddy and you’ve no way to guarantee what result he gets.

Ah, but I’ll just keep B, and as long it remains “false”, I’ll know A is true, right? Sure, but you have no way of knowing at any given moment if B is false, because in the act of checking it…etc.

There are subtleties I’m missing, of course, but the gist is that using a particle to transmit information isn’t like sending a written letter. You can at least be confident that that recipient of the letter will see the same words you saw as you wrote it. If the act of him opening the envelope caused the words to change randomly, what good is the letter?

Well that seems simple enough to get around. Just agree on a set time to check the particles. Your buddy sends the answer before that and all is well.

Something I’ve always wondered - is the sentence “no useful information can be transmitted faster than the speed of light” descriptive or prescriptive?

For Pete’s sake, please read this linkhttp://www.fourmilab.ch/documents/calendar/ specifically the section on the Mayan calendar and for those doomday idiots please note that this event has been long accounted for…

Well, assuming you can keep the two particles in absolute isolation the whole time. And if there is an unintended interaction with a stray gamma ray, you won’t have any way of knowing it.

“I checked my particle. It says false, so I know yours says true, which is correct.”

“Yes, but was it false before you checked it, or did your act of checking it make it false?”

“Uhmmmm…”

To those who accept the quantum entanglement concept the act of checking made it false and made the other true at the same time.

Now mind you the more I read about this the more I become less convinced that quantum entanglement as it is presently understood represents super luminal information transmission. But I’m not quite sure.

But half seems more convinced than seems justified and about how the speculated tachyons would behave as well.

I tried a GQ about tachyons and got no takers but I am very curious as to what the universe would look like from a tachyon perspective (time goes the other way, Black Holes appear as White Holes?, it takes more energy to slow a particle down …) and what would be the signatures of tachyons in our observable universe (replusive gravity? or what?) I don’t know if anyone has really worked out a good physics model based on an assumption that tachyons exist. For half to state with certainty that he knows how they would or would not behave seems to me to be a bit much.

Also a weird thought - at a quantum level particles can change into other particles.

So certain particles approaching say an event horizon could change into a photon and move at the speed of light and, who knows, then change into tachyons that move faster than the speed of light and travel in the other direction through time. Hypothetically.

This is what is cool about physics. The things that are (I think) not inconsistent with what we know are at least as crazy as our op!

Like it or not? What’s not to like?

And I thought it was Dec. 21, not Dec. 12. Can we get the dates straightened out, please?

Could someone please tell me why we’re debating this at all? Let alone debating any numbers?

I was going to say “I might as well say…” then come up with something ridiculous and try to make up some numbers. But I can’t beat the OP.

What baudrunner neglects to mention is that the antimatter pellet is in fact the anti-Christ. He will collide with the Christ, completely annihilating both and destroying the world as we know it.

I always thought an anti-Christ/Christ meeting would result in a total conversion of all mass AND mystic spirit stuff to energy, resulting in the destruction of the entire solar system…and a good portion of the galaxy too boot. No?

-XT

Pure nonsense. A Christ-Antichrist reaction, obviously, annihilates only liturgical mass. The energy yield varies considerably depending upon whether the initial reaction mass is Tridentine, Novus Ordo, Anglican or Lutheran; however, physicists agree that the total yield can never exceed the mass of Pope Paul VI (71.8 kg).

So, then Energy would be equal to Mass (said in Latin) times C squared, where C is the total number of Christians on the planet at any given time?

-XT

I fail to see what this “Time Cube” site has to do with all of this. As to the nature of the sun, check out this very serious website, which supports rational opposition to the ridiculous notion that the sun is a giant gas ball, I mean, how preposterous!

A large anti-matter pellet will puncture the iron mantle of the sun, causing it to partially collapse and destabalize it. It will subsequently explode, in a manner of speaking.

Gorsnak, the anti-matter is inits own containment chamber, that grows as more anti-matter is being added to it. If you study Toutatis data, you’ll find that it rotates out of sync with its other half, which is ordinary matter. I propose destroying only that part, as the rest may be of service to us in the future.

Little Nemo, these people deal with time chunks of 65 million years and more. I think that a few thousand years to them is totally predictable. There is no evidence that the Mayan calendar “rolls over”. Sorry, that’s it, that’s all she wrote, let the fat lady sing.

Bytegeist, you are so naive. If you did less prosletyzing and more research you would know that the sun indeed does have an iron mantle - much of the matter in the solar system is iron. We are an iron world.Study this site.

Giant fluidic gas ball, my foot! Temperatures far exceeding the surface temperature of the sun have been achieved in the laboratory, with iron maintaining its solid state even at temperatures far greater than occur on the sun’s surface. Imaging evidence proves that permanent craters exist on the sun’s iron surface. The sun is actually a gian iron ball surrounded by a sea of neon plasma, inside of which violent nuclear reactions are taking place.

It’s incomprehensible to you because it’s truth, not theory. “Truth is stranger than fiction”.

Sadly, the truth is a stranger to many.

Nope.

A nova is caused by the accretion of matter onto a white dwarf star. The Sun is not a white dwarf star, so it can’t go nova.

The Sun can’t go supernova, either. It’s not massive enough.

The Sun doesn’t have an iron mantel, or mantle for that matter. If there were a lot of iron in the Sun, its spectrum would look very different from what we actually see.

What’s the other half made of? If it’s matter, how are the matter and antimatter kept apart so they don’t annihilate? Is there a system like the McDLT packaging?

That’s not why we see supernova remnants. We see supernova remnants because not all supernovae blow their parent stars entirely to smithereens. The core of the star is left, and emits electromagnetic radiation. If your theory were true, we’d see a normal star when we looked for a supernova remnant, because we’d be seeing the star as it was before it blew up. We don’t.

Life is frightening, dear.

I’m not worried, because I can overcome any trivial adversity. I am a transmigrated spirit, and I can simply be reborn where I choose. What is fear, anyway?

I have patience with your kind, my friend. Open your mind, your heart, to the truth, and you will be satiated. Continue to pursue your ego-centric view of “reality” and you will be forever in doubt. Some find doubt the most comfortable entrenchment through the passage of one’s life. Once the truth is realized, what else is there? Eventually boredom, until some other ridiculous ism takes root and deludes the innocent with the comfort of never really knowing, just believing.

Belief is the most potent force in your life. It means the difference between truly passing away and merely transitioning. Think transcendence. But remember that truth is essential to continuation. It is the ticket to eternal life.