Believing that Christ is the son of a deity is the first step in being a christian. I attended private Catholic schools from nursery school through high school (and I did very well), traveled many places, lived in many places and I don’t think I’m being deceived by anyone. I wasn’t talking about the bible. I was talking about history, like you claim you were. Even if I were talking about the bible, the many letters from Paul and Peter (father of christianity) may disagree with you on that. 
Are you in complete agreement with what is espoused on tentmaker.org, or do you disagree with some of it?
It’s the irrelevance that may be an issue. You could print a list of known Christians as long as the NYC phone book, and it wouldn’t matter a damn. I could regurgitate a long list of atheist writers – and Jewish, Islamic, Hindu, Buddhist, classical Pagan and neo-Pagan writers: would that impress you? It shouldn’t.
Going back, however: you listed a number of books that referenced the existence of Jesus. But several of those only quoted from other books, and didn’t have any original or primary references to Jesus. I asked you to cut the list down to those that actually served as evidence for Jesus’ existence. You shot back some other list entirely, and, here, you say that you’d have given more of that. But that has no relevance to what you originally said and what I questioned.
Being non-responsive in a debate is a crummy way to conduct a discussion. If you make a claim, and someone questions it, it’s really sloppy to ignore the question and post some new, unrelated claim.
I think your debate is unattentive, I have not given a list of books in this thread, you don’t know what your talking about. Show me where I gave a list of books; and when you fail in doing that, ask yourself how someone who is not even paying attention to a debate, can call anothers style of debate crummy.
I have never met anybody or know of any human that I completely agree with. Nor any group. I do not agree with everything on Tentmaker, I was in fact banned from there years ago.
I sincerely owe the OP - Mickiel - an apology -
I stated earlier in this thread -
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Because -well - you got me.
I honestly think this is the first time I have encountered someone that believes in God and Jesus (as his son), the sacrifice and the afterlife - and yet so adamantly refuses to be called a ‘Christian’ .
In most peoples view - even those that are as adamantly against organized religion as you are - still claim to be ‘Christian’ based on the simple belief of God/Son/Sacrifice and the desire to be ‘Christ like’ in actions and deeds. (aka - the 'philosophy of Christianity, not the ‘religion’ of same). And that is why there is that contention here - you have repeatedly stated that you believe in the principal tenet and idea.
Most would do the opposite - “I am a Christian, all those others are not”
So, while I still firmly believe you have a lot of misguided facts regarding ‘those Christians’, and many of your ideas and proofs could use some more research by you, as you do seem to paint with extremely wide brush strokes - you have at least broken the mold.
Your just one of those people who think that Christians hold a monopoly on belief in God. You like putting people in your catagorys and placing your labels on them; you cannot handle the truth that I am not Christian, so your mind cannot see what I am. Only what comforts your understanding.
I accept your apoligy. Thank you.
But…but…
If you’re not a Christian, how does it come to pass that you find yourself in their congregations and listening to their sermons enough to know this “fact” yourself?
I was a Christian for 37 years, I think thats long enough to know the wisdom of something; wisdom is knowing how it is.
Well, I kinda mocked him, in this post here, but it doesn’t appear that he even took much notice of it.
No, actually, there is absolutely no extrabiblical historical or archaeological evidence for the Exodus, and there is even reasonable doubt as to whether David and Solomon’s united Kingdom of Israel-Judah ever existed. See here. As for the New Testament, see here.
Oh I noticed it; and your not the only one who has done it. But I simply ignored it, and I thought for a second that even just ignoring insults got me in trouble with a Moderator here.
Actually, no. Not Josephus.
There’s none for the Exodus, but I already listed 7 confirmed historical Archaeological finds, 6 from the book of second Kings, in this thread. Kindly look at them and give me a credible refute of those.
And explain to me why you have ignored the discovery of King Solomons Copper mines?
Also please explain to me why you are calling the discovery of Herod the Greats Tomb, no evidence?
You all know the Bible
Is made of Testaments old and new
You’ve been told it’s just those two parts
(Or only one, if you’re a Jew).
But What if I were to tell you
There’s a fresh third part out there,
That was found by a hip new prophet
Who had a little – 
Donny Osmond flair!
I disagree with that, but that’s fine, you got 32 more on that list, lets have their evaluation.
Ya think maybe they ALL kicked him out?
Naaaahhh.
It ain’t necessarily so
It ain’t necessarily so
Dem tings dat you liable
To read in de Bible
Dey ain’t necessarily so
Methuselah lived 900 years
Methuselah lived 900 years
But why call dat livin’
When no gal will give in
To no man what’s 900 years?!
It is my destiny to be kicked out of places.