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741

I said nothing about them being here forever, I said God wants them here now; at least that is what I meant. And in my view, all Atheist will be with God forever. And Christians too. And Buddist, and all humans!

742

I responded to your actual words. I do not even care what you really were"conscious" of. Your posted words were inaccurate and I corrected the error they portrayed. You posted this:

That paragraph ignores how the phase is used in real life by real humans. The whole “ownership” nonsense is nonsense specifically because no one claims that Christians “own” the bible.
In logic, that is called a straw man argument: setting up a position that one’s opponent does not really hold in order to trash the opinion and pretend that one has defeated one’s opponent.
There is no “deception.” The phrase is used to identify a specific set of books based on who routinely uses them in liturgical celebration. Claiming a “deception” is you trying to be “conscious” of what other people think and failing miserably at the effort.

I have no interest in being conscious of what you were thinking when you posted. This is a discussion forum and I am interested in the factual nature of the statements that are posted. Your straw man about ownership was not factual; I responded.
As to all the stuff about atheists and theists, I have no idea what you were trying to say, but as it did not present any contradictions to actual facts, I have no interest in responding to it.

743

Well then don’t respond. I am not chasing you down in any of your threads. Peace on your journey. I enjoyed the dialog.

744

And who or what created the other parts?

745

I don’t know.

746

What a refreshing thing to have you say in this conversation. :slight_smile: However, I would prefer to not go off on a tangent about whether you’ve used the phrase before in this thread, so let’s move on. Would it be fair to infer from what you’ve posted that you believe God has existence in two different phases, so to speak, BEFORE He created parts of Himself, and AFTER He created parts of Himself?

747

Perhaps god is a work in progress? (In which case, it must by definition not be perfect.)

748

Yes, but I personally believe that he exist in Seven different Phases.

749

No, he is a perfect work in perfect progress.

750

A religion is believing there is a God, so you do have a religion of 1.

751

To be honest you have to say, “I believe God provided it” Since there is no proof of God or a God it is just belief. And according to the psalmist all are gods and son’s of God.

Existence proceeds the universe, God had no place to exist, before he could exist!

752

You realize that the God you believe in had to come from nothing So your argument is no different that what you claim are wrong. and there is no proof that God did said or write anything. It is all from the human mind.

753

Your words are not God’s words, just words Men attribute to God a ,or a God. No one can say in truth that God did or said anything.

754

This reminds me of a debate I had with Atheist not long ago;

755

I remember doing it again here;

756

Absolute nonsense. Have you ever opened a dictionary? Look up the word “perfect”.

757

Thank you for showing us that you are incapable of accepting any information that doesn’t fit what you already believe, and that this habit of redefining words to suit your needs didn’t start with this thread.

758

You quite welcome. What you don’t know is that it was my debates with Atheist that changed my views on churches paying taxes, and evolution.

And a few more changes as well; but what you don’t know, should not hurt your points.

759

I remember doing it here - in this very thread - just yesterday.

You lost then too.

760

The debate is not about winning or loosing, its about an exchange of views.

And I enjoy that.