Yes, I think hell never has existed. But I believe God has created lakes of Fire in his world, and there is a Lake of Fire that he created for Demons. I think God looks at and uses Fire far different than we humans do. I think Fire in Heaven is a good thing, not something to be feared. I think God uses HIS fire to purify, to cleanse, to change things, and I think it can be used to destroy, if he wants it to. And no human, in my view of the bible and God, will suffer ANY type of eternal punishment. IF there will be punishing, its only temporary, not forever, God will do no such thing.
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the o.p. ( original post ) is about eternal suffering. as a non believer of the crap i simply stated my point of view.’
‘invisible man in the sky’
opinions are free you know.
if this a worship gawd thread i will stay out.
if you wish me to quote rubbish from the book of fairytales then state it clear.
out if this thread.
infraction central? gawd have mercy.
Spirit is Consciousness; and I am also using Spirit to describe the dimension God exist in, its a Spirit dimension, TOTALLY different than ours. And I am also using it to describe " Beings"; a Spirit being is not human, not flesh, just nothing like anything we are aware of really. Like a ghost or something, just totally different from us. Some of them even look like humans, or have human features, combined with animal features, spirit beings are just awesome, the way the bible describes them.
All right then, sentrix.
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Would it be too much to ask that you use different words for different concepts, to help clear up any confusion?
This is not a worship God thread, your welcome. I don’t believe in eternal crap myself.
Look, I am doing my best, if it does not suit you, I am truly sorry.
Do you believe that Heaven will eventually cease to exist?
No, it will last forever, I just do not consider heaven to be crap.
Can you provide cites about these demonic influences that supposedly inserted the concept of Hell into the Bible?
No. Just the two I have already given. Tentmaker and Bible-truths.
Since you say that you are not a Christian, are there any non-Christian sites you could recommend?
Nope, none that I am aware of.
So, it appears that He’s been increasing in complexity down through the years, hmm?
I mean I think he has, according to my understanding; in Job 40:10 he " Adorns himself with Eminence and Dignity, and gives himself Honor and Majesty." This means he made himself great, made himself of high standing, made himself above all others; He gave himself worth and nobility, and I think it means he can give himself anything that he wants to, he’s so powerful; and he has! So I would say yes, he is increasing in complexity, and that is a sure sign that he created other things that can increase in complexity.
Bizarre.
Do you think these same demonic influences messed with other religious tomes when it comes to the topic of punishment after death?
Definitely, yes.
And yet you say you haven’t read other religious texts.
Yabbut he already pointed out early in the thread that EVERY “religious” text that isn’t the Bible was actually written by Satan. And when he points something out, it’s a fact that you can take to the bank.
IIRC, I think he also pointed THAT out…
And yet he has an unread copy of the Qur’an in his house that he just hasn’t gotten around to reading yet. Is it safe for him to even possess such a demonic book, let alone read it?