OK - so a libertarian web site says its not racist. Guess that ends any discussion.
Hey – does anyone remember Wildest Bill? I’ll bet you any amount of money he’s not only a VERY enthusiastic Tea-Partier but a Birther as well.
No actually, if you had taken the time to read beyond the heading you would see that the research was done by a grad student at UCLA, Emily Elkins. Then it was reported by the Washington Post.
It is to WaPo’s credit that they are daring to depart from the liberal script about what the Tea Party is.
And Guinastasia thanks for fixing the link
So, that’s what happened to Victoria Jackson
So, a person did a survey of signs at ONE Tea Party rally, and it just happens to be the rally where they were specifically told NOT to bring crazy racist signs, and the survey found that most people did not bring those types of signs they were asked not to bring (because having them would look bad).
And we’re supposed to take this as evidence that the Tea Party isn’t racist? After all the other rallies, where such signs were in such abundance, that the people coming to the rally in September had to be asked not to bring them?
Are you out of your fucking mind?
I’ll accept it as evidence that the people at that rally didn’t bring those signs, but that’s about all. When come back, bring real facts and a preponderance of evidence. Not pictures from a staged event (the event I’m talking about being: “Keep your racism on the downlow! Leave the ‘nigger’ signs at home!”).
I don’t think SA is wrong. The Tea Party is very loosely organized. There’s a lot that people seem to agree on, but there does not seem to be any true leaders, at least, none that are not operating in the shadows.
But we’re making a mistake here. We don’t need a leader. We just need someone who is considered to be representative of the group’s views. And that by definition would be the people they are voting for to operate in our representational government. Figure out what they have in common, and those are the views. It works for all political groups.
Don’t get me wrong, I do believe there are many times that SA has engaged in less than well-formed arguments, and would likely benefit from a difference in style. But that does make everything he says inherently wrong. In fact, there usually is some point, even if it is not argued well.
If that’s true, then what’s the point? Democrats and Republicans, for all their faults, at least stand for something. They accept and expel members, they raise funds and support their campaigns, they hold primaries to select candidates, they debate, write, and release a platform statement, and the results of all this can be tracked by their public disclosures and by the voting records of their members.
The Tea Party, to the point that anyone can even discuss what unites them, is angry at the government. They want to hold the members of the government accountable for some perceived failings or mismanagement. At the same time, we’re told that none of them are accountable for anything. It’s like nailing Jello to a tree. Come on, guys, grow a pair and step up to the plate. You want to play with the big boys? Fine, tell me where you stand.
Or else what the hell is the Tea Party?
I hate to bring up the dreaded R-word in an environment that is infested by liberals, but you are the one who is responsible for what you do with your time, not me.
I bought the DVD for my 6-year-old daughter, and she seemed to be enjoying it, but I must confess that I wasn’t really watching it. Why were you watching it?
Do you ever engage the brain? The Tea Party is a diverse movement, yes, but it does have one central focus, which is getting rid of big government and waste. That is not a partisan issue.
There is where I part company with the Tea Partiers. Actually, religion is where I draw the line. It is amazing, to me, how quickly a conservative can go from making sense, talking about responsibility, work ethic, and freedom, to babbling about religion and abortion, coming across as a total moron. If they could just leave the religion and abortion out of their agenda, the rest of the message would probably sell. As for the racism, there are a few assholes in every crowd.
I would think that the “what the hell, they’re dead” comment would explain this. It doesn’t matter whether they would be honored or not. They are dead.
I would tell them, that’s “dune coon” to you. Silly person, I am far above being offended by name-calling.
What sort of handout are you looking for?
Obama wants to end wars? Who was the last politician who did not say, “I want to end this war and bring our troops home?” Would that be Reagan?
As for “tax cuts we cannot afford”…I’m a small business owner, getting ready to send in my taxes (yeah, I know they’re late, they’ll send me a bill for that later). If I did not have to send this money to the IRS, to be wasted, flushed down the toilet, I could hire more employees this year. Do you understand why a tax cut might help with the unemployment situation? Cut my taxes in half right now and I will give you a job. Government can do nothing but leech money from the economy. They cannot give you anything. They can only take. The answer to finding a job, and everything else that you need, is within you. You don’t need the government, your mother, or Jesus Christ to do it for you. Take some initiative, educate yourself, take a bath, dress up nice, put down the fucking bong, and make something of yourself! Once you are successful, you can pick up the bong and fuck off again…that’s exactly what I intend to do.
How are you going to lose access to birth control? Are they taking the condom racks out of the convenience stores or what?
I would humbly suggest that you be specific about what facts I have misrepresented, and what facts you have to refute them. I posted several links about the black tea party, and no one has refuted any of the material.
That is a good link, fixed:
Bullshit. If you hire new employees just because you get a tax cut, you are a very poor businessman. Most businesses have plenty of capital to hire employees, but they lack demand for their products. What is the point of hiring employees if you don’t have enough work for the ones you have now? Tax cuts do not spur hiring, consumer demand does. We have had tax cuts for the wealthy for almost ten years now; where are all the jobs you say should have been created? Why didn’t the Bush tax cuts work the first time around? Why should we increase the deficit to line the pockets of corporations that aren’t going to hire anybody anyway? Tax cuts are just a give away to the wealthy.
Seems like you might be getting a bit of a head start.
Exactly. If tax cuts are what will cause more people to get hired by more businesses, why didn’t we have a net job gain during the Bush administrations, when the tax cuts were in effect? It’s all a lie, is why.
Go further back in time to Reagan and his Reaganomics trickle down theory - that the benefits of “corporate hand outs” would trickle down to everyone. It was a spectacular failure. Nothing trickled down.
MY guess would be Nixon, when he called it quits in Viet Nam (?) not Reagan.
There we go. No one cared until Obama. Then suddenly, on the day he “moved in” the world ended. Partisan bullshit. Bush was one of them, a :god told me what to do" rightist supposedly conservative Repub. But that was OK. It was only when Obama got in (he WAS elected) that suddenly it changed to “we gotta get the country back”. I call bullshit on the Tea Baggers.