Who’s “they”?
Sure they would. Here’s an example. 
No it isn’t. A white man with the same name and the same childhood backgound would fall under the same type of suspicion. And most of the Muslims that Americans hate, resent and fear are white.
So, if we’ve established that the Tea Party is just as (if not more) socially conservative than the Republican Party. And their fiscal stance is nothing more than to oppose what Obama does.
What’s their point? How are they different/distinct from the Republican Party?
I think one of the most telling features of the Tea Party is that their queen made no mention of any of this when running for VP.
Remember, you heard it here first!
It’s not exactly that simple, thoguh you’re mostly right, but it’s irrelevant; were it not for the taxes that business pays, how in the hell could business function? It’d be pretty hard to run a business with no government. No rule of law, no public infrastructure, no civil justice, no common currency…
I didn’t mean to imply that they were libertarian. Like I said much earlier in this thread, I would be surprised if more than 10% of TPs would fall in that category. Most seem to be run-of-the-mill social conservatives who are “Mad as hell, and aren’t going to take it anymore”.
As for the wars, the original estimate for Iraq was $50B. Oops. Afghanistan was always pretty much open ended. Good luck Obama trying to end that without Afghanistan turning into another Taliban run disaster.
Those concerned with long-term strategery for the Republican Party. Not Bush, nor Mcain, and CERTAINLY not Palin. Maybe Rove,Cheney, and others.
:(:(:(. I think a better way to describe it is autistic.
When things are going to hell in a hand basket, it is often a good idea to stop and perhaps take a turn off the road. President Obama is a good thing.
I will support pretty much anything that is not what Bush was or the folks that are nothing but the same under a different name. It stuns me. The Tea Party is actually worse than Bush. This new ‘Party’ wants to distance themselves from the last Republican fiasco. The Tea Party wants to burn the constitution and what made America what it is (or was) by putting religion back in government.
Have they forgotten 4th grade history class?
From where I sit and what I see, the Tea Party can’t see beyond next Tuesday.
For instance, the ‘Tea Party’ in Colorado is for a 50% reduction for school spending. I don’t have children and never will, but understand that education is important for everyone’s future. Colorado is #34th in $ per student in the nation. It’s embarrassing.
I really don’t know how to respond to these folks, but I have tried.
I emailed the woman that runs the site that sponsors this amendment, and she actually responded. She said “thank you for your polite email, most people just curse at me”. She stated that the shortfall for education would be picked up by the State.
I asked “if the state general budget is effectively gone to support schools, and state funds are also reduced by other amendments, where is the money going to come from to maintain roads and infrastructure?” (just the tip of the iceberg really)
She has not responded.
People that can’t see further ahead than the next TV they can buy on so called ‘tax savings’ should not be making budget amendments to the Colorado constitution.
I know better, but just can’t help it, I gotta ask: What in the hell are you talking about?
They’re religious bigots, not racial bigots. Nothing to worry about!
I am sure it has something to do with brown paper bags.
Dumbass…I have enough work. I need equipment, and employees, and that costs money. I can either pay it in taxes, where it will be spent on Chinese windmills and otherwise flushed down the toilet, or I can buy more equipment and hire people to operate it. Because I have to pay it in taxes, jobs will not be created. That’s how it works. Why is that so difficult to understand?
Fox News just posted a link to a tax cut rate calculator, and you might be surprised at just where the line for “the rich” is drawn. I only allow myself and my husband a small salary, because we put all of our money into the business, and we’re always working, so we don’t have time to spend it anyway, yet, the taxes on my lower-middle class salary will be increased, dramatically. The $250,000 figure that Obama talked about is just outright horse shit. The tax cuts are “across the board”.
Is the economy fucked up, despite the tax cuts? Yes, just as sometimes a wound festers despite the best medical treatment. Does that mean that medical treatment is a failure, and we should try shaking maracas instead? No. We know that shaking maracas will not cure a wound, just as we know that we can’t tax our way out of a recession. Leeching money from the economy can only make things worse…history has shown us that. So why do you want your taxes increased?
I don’t believe a word Fox News publishes. Period.
Yes, everyone keeps the tax cut on the first $250k. Anything over that goes back up to 39%. What is your point?
My taxes aren’t going up, and anyone who tells you otherwise is a liar.
Corporations won’t save the American economy. Small business will. The snowjob is that this is about government vs. big business. It isn’t. I’m not happy with the things that big business and government have done to this country, and you’re a fool if you believe that one or the other will be your salvation. What we need to do is put a muzzle on government, cut it back, start scrapping it, so that small business can survive and prosper.
I can’t speak for corporations, only for my business, and for other business owners I know, and I can tell you that we are able, willing, and ready to hire people, if the government will leave us alone and let us do it. Unfortunately, the situation just got a whole lot worse with Barrycare.
No, what I was saying was that the groups are probably not predominately racist, because there are plenty of black people involved with them, plenty of blacks involved, no fistfights or murders. I don’t see anyone actually counting the numbers.
May I ask, what does your business produce?
Must I digress to the GED level? I want to hire people because those people can make money for me, and expand my business. I am willing to pay them whatever they are worth to me as assets. That’s the way it works in the real world.
Without the government leeches attached, both to me, and to the employee, the business could expand faster, and more people would have jobs.
IF and ONLY IF I had the venture capital to pay for the equipment and the employee’s training. I do expect to see a return on that money when the employee becomes productive. That’s how it works. Unfortunately, I have to spend my capital on taxes, which will go to Chinese windmills, and to support people who don’t work for a living, and that is what will fuck up the economy. The economy is what we make of it…if we don’t work, we aren’t making anything.
If you were to start your own business, it would be a major reality check for you. Money in your pocket is worthless. “Money” does nothing but go down in value. It has to be invested, in people and in equipment.
If you had the money to do it, yes. If you had to spend the money on taxes, it would go to waste, and someone would be unemployed. That is exactly what is going on.
Morella:
What would you consider a fair top marginal tax rate, with which conservatives would be satisfied, and no longer campaign for tax cuts?
Ever watch Battlestar Galactica? “You have to pick your side”. I would be in complete agreement with a political party, that supported these ideas :
Religion is total bullshit, and should be abolished.
The EPA and most other regulatory agencies should be abolished.
All prescription drugs should be freely available to adults. No drugs should be illegal.
Gays should not be allowed to legally marry, but they can do anything else they want to do, as long as the government doesn’t have to pay the bill for their AIDS.
Antitrust regulations should be toughened.
No American company should be allowed to use foreign labor.
Any person living in this country illegally should be shot.
Welfare, public education, and social security should be abolished.
No free health care, for anyone.
Does any party align with all of these ideas? No. I will vote conservative, despite the fact that I obviously disagree with much of the conservative agenda, because it is the lesser of all of the evils. I won’t hate black people, and I won’t praise Jesus, whether the party that I have chosen to vote for does or not. That’s what we all have to do…pick our side. It’s not a perfect world.