The Tea Party is not socially conservative my ass

[Starving_Artist]

@Hentor_the_Barbarian

[This is eerily similar to Starving Artist’s argument in the other thread that liberals have been intentionally misleading conservatives about the true nature of evolution all these years.

No, it isn’t my belief that liberals have intentionally been misleading conservatives (or more accurately, everybody in general) about the nature of evolution all these years. It is my belief however that they have inadvertently been doing so by framing their comments about evolution and creationism in such a way as to have had the effect of misleading them about it.

[Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew]

@Starving_Artist

No, it isn’t my belief that liberals have intentionally been misleading conservatives (or more accurately, everybody in general) about the nature of evolution all these years.

Ahem.

@Starving_Artist

So now we have a situation where the left apparently is deliberately creating the impression that evolution accounts for life on this planet, while simultaneously making fun of people for thinking that liberals believe that evolution accounts for life on this planet.

Emphasis added. And no, the word “apparently” does not negate the accusation.

[elucidator]

Well, there you go! If this sort of inadvertent mispeaking can happen to a steel-trap mind like Starving Artist, them certainly it can happen to some drugged out liberal! Maybe the cat walked across the keyboard.

[Czarcasm]

@Starving_Artist

@Hentor_the_Barbarian

[This is eerily similar to Starving Artist’s argument in the other thread that liberals have been intentionally misleading conservatives about the true nature of evolution all these years.

No, it isn’t my belief that liberals have intentionally been misleading conservatives (or more accurately, everybody in general) about the nature of evolution all these years. It is my belief however that they have inadvertently been doing so by framing their comments about evolution and creationism in such a way as to have had the effect of misleading them about it.

I think I understand.
You claim ignorance, but it’s the fault of scientists for not using words small enough for you to understand. However, now that you’ve been enlightened as to the reality of the situation, you’d rather remain ignorant.

[RedFury]

@Starving_Artist

Perhaps we should define the term “Fighting ignorance”. Apparently it does not mean what I think that it means.

And it only took you seven years to learn as much. Good job!

[Starving_Artist]

There is a distinction between the meaning of those two statements. Let me see if I can explain:

Yes, liberals have been deliberately creating the impression over the last few decades that evolution supplants creationism as the explanation for life. But that is completely different from doing so simply in order to mislead conservatives. In other words they’ve intentionally been doing A, and the result of their having done that is B. But they didn’t do A in order to create B.

[Morella]

@BlankSlate

Yeah, well I wonder where these “principled patriots” were when Bush was out-spending any administration in American history. Lying cocksuckers.

Bravo, OP.

I thought Congress was in charge of spending ?

[Trepa_Mayfield]

Still waiting for SA to actually denounce Paladino et al…

[Robot_Arm]

@Starving_Artist

Yes, liberals have been deliberately creating the impression over the last few decades that evolution supplants creationism as the explanation for life. But that is completely different from doing so simply in order to mislead conservatives.

So why have then been doing it, if not to mislead conservatives?

[Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew]

@Robot_Arm

So why have then been doing it, if not to mislead conservatives?

This ought to be good.

[Chefguy]

@Revtim

@Chefguy

Religion pays, lunacy doesn’t. You can always sell god, but you get full-up with crazy in short order.

Many would argue that the Religious Right’s version of religion is just another example of crazy.

Nah, that’s just delusion. People tend to see delusion as somewhat harmless. After all, what harm could come from believing too strongly in one’s version of god? Most are reluctant to brand them for what they are: Christian fanatics who are no better than Muslim fanatics. Until the delusion turns violent (Jim Jones, David Koresh, et al), we tolerate it. Outright batshit crazy causes us to shake our heads in disbelief for awhile, but eventually it becomes scary enough for most people to come to their senses.

[Guinastasia]

@Clothahump

@Steampunk_Willie

Is that what we are going to call the signs with Nigger and Obama-hitler on them?

Those you can ignore because more than likely, they are being held up by someone trying to besmirch the Tea Party movement. They know the media will show those signs; it’s like a Pavlovian reaction and they position for good camera exposure.

WRONG

‘N-Word’ Sign Dogs Would-Be Tea Party Leader
Tea Party Leader Who Claimed No Slurs? Now Famous For Holding N-word Sign

Tea Party Leader Dale Robertson Ousted for N-Word Sign

And it looks like he’s not the only one:

Robertson, a Tea Party activist, operated TeaParty.org. A photo of him holding the “Niggar” sign at a Feb. 27, 2009 Tea Party in Houston surfaced recently.

Many of the protestors who have turned out at the Tea Party rallies across the United States have carried racially insensitive signs. Some of them have portrayed President Obama as a Nazi, clown, bone-in-the-nose African native and murderer.

Well? Do you have anything to say?

[SteveG1]

@Starving_Artist

There is a distinction between the meaning of those two statements. Let me see if I can explain:

Yes, liberals have been deliberately creating the impression over the last few decades that evolution supplants creationism as the explanation for life. But that is completely different from doing so simply in order to mislead conservatives. In other words they’ve intentionally been doing A, and the result of their having done that is B. But they didn’t do A in order to create B.

So, are you deliberately full of shit?

[MTCicero]

@Guinastasia

Well? Do you have anything to say?

Hell, I’m still waiting for him to answer my questions. I think I’ll be waiting a loooong time.

[Inigo_Montoya]

@Guinastasia

WRONG

‘N-Word’ Sign Dogs Would-Be Tea Party Leader
Tea Party Leader Who Claimed No Slurs? Now Famous For Holding N-word Sign

Tea Party Leader Dale Robertson Ousted for N-Word Sign
Well? Do you have anything to say?

Well, the sign was tasteless, yes. But it’s not like he was calling President Obama a “niggar” with the sign. The same message could just as easily have been prtrayed with “Congress = Nazis, Taxpayers = Jews” and then we’d have no outrage.

But the sign does demonstrate his ignorance. Nigger slaves didn’t have money for the masters to take. But I suppose niggAr(dly) slaves did but just didn’t want to pay. Jews, as we all know, DID have lots of money for the Nazis to take, however.

[Guinastasia]

I’ve long given up trying to make sense of anything Starving Artist says.

[Morella]

Until the delusion turns violent (Jim Jones, David Koresh, et al), we tolerate it.

David Koresh wasn’t violent, just protective. The US government started the violence in Waco, and ended it by burning down the compound.

[Cisco]

@Inigo_Montoya

Well, the sign was tasteless, yes. But it’s not like he was calling President Obama a “niggar” with the sign. The same message could just as easily have been prtrayed with “Congress = Nazis, Taxpayers = Jews” and then we’d have no outrage.

But the sign does demonstrate his ignorance. Nigger slaves didn’t have money for the masters to take. But I suppose niggAr(dly) slaves did but just didn’t want to pay. Jews, as we all know, DID have lots of money for the Nazis to take, however.

Maybe he was talking about the tv show. The Niggar Family.

[Shot_From_Guns]

@Miller

So, we can’t judge the Tea Party by what its members say. And we can’t judge the Tea Party by what its elected representatives say. So, what standard can we use to evaluate the Tea Party as a whole?

I believe **Starving Artist **is a fan of the No True Teabagger theory. Any member of the Tea Party who does anything remotely stupid, racist, or bigoted automatically proves that they aren’t really a member of the Tea Party and thus do not reflect poorly on it in any way.

[Clothahump]

@MTCicero

This begs the question: Why, then, did it take a black man being elected president for them to get organized and start marching in the streets, as it were?

It had absolutely nothing to do with the color of his skin. It had everything to do with his politics.