Clearly they are being manipulated by right-winger political activists.
My kids aren;t much older than these kids and they are some of the most knowledgeable and politically engaged people I know. As are their friends. Just because SA doesn’t know clever, engaged kids doesn’t mean theyre not out there.
Hardly. Two kids on PBS hardly equate to days and days of hundreds of angry students demanding gun control. Remember what I said about bombs and cherry bombs? This is the kind of thing I was talking about.
And now I’m out as I’ve got work to do tonight and have spent way too much time here already.
Like I said, “Hundreds of angry students now mobilizing mass public protest in wake of horrific shooting to demand gun control” is news.
“There are now, as there always have been, some students who support Second Amendment rights” is not.
However, “Student survivor of Florida school shooting thinks gun control won’t help” is news.
And guess what? That story is indeed all over the “liberal MSM”, along with the coverage of the pro-gun-control students.
Your problem seems to be that you propound false equivalences and then complain you’re being treated unfairly when other people don’t take them at face value.
Or maybe the simpler explanation is, the people who want gun control laws - young and old - just observed and lived through a traumatic experience that makes the case that we need more restrictions on access to firearms.
Federal law strictly regulates, and for practical purposes, prohibits the manufacture, distribution, sale, and possession of “destructive devices” under Title II by ordinary citizens. I’m just wondering: how is an assault rifle that can kill 59 people in Las Vegas, or 17 people in a Parkland, Florida high school, or 27 people in a Texas church, or a 12 people in a suburban Denver movie theater…not a destructive device? Assault weapons have killed just as many as, and probably more than, the number that would be killed by weapons that most people with common sense want banned.
Speaking as a gun owner, if I repeatedly witnessed my friends/colleagues being gunned down, I’d be perfectly willing to scrap the amendment allowing the carnage to continue.
ETA: I wouldn’t have said this a year ago, but we all have our breaking points. Hopefully others are waking up as well.
The thing is, it doesn’t requiring scrapping the 2nd Amendment at all - it never did. Few progressives have ever advocated scrapping the 2nd Amendment. Some liberals actually own firearms for one thing. But for another, we’re not that dense to believe that this is going to magically make our violence problem go away.
The problem is that the gun rights lobby has taken extreme positions on these issues, and is unwilling to negotiate on any of them. We can’t even talk about regulating bump stocks for fucks sake – probably because Wayne Lapierre wants to keep his job and his political power and has staked his remaining career and legacy on being at the vanguard of an increasingly non-negotiable fringe position. Before that sonofabitch became the face of gun rights, I seem to remember the NRA as a relatively benign organization and with commercials selling membership and accidental death and dismemberment insurance. Lapierre is a hostage to his own brand of extremism in the same way that other politically powerful conservatives are. If he backs down even a millimeter, then he fears being called weak and having others in his ranks call for his ouster. I’ve agreed in the past with conservative criticisms of unions in that they become cult of personality institutions that stray from their original missions. Well, turns out the NRA is no different.
But the 2nd Amendment - even now - is not in danger. At least not yet. But the 2nd Amendment never, for a moment, precluded government on any level taking measures to protect public safety, which is the real issue here. The right of multiple individuals occupying public (or even private) space to be reasonably free from dangerous situations outweighs the right of the gun enthusiast to buy and sell guns and ammo on E-bay. Period.
Just another example of your overactive imagination at work. If you eat a nice lunch and take your nap, everything should be back to normal.
You forgot to mention that an old fucker like him should also take his Geritol.
In case you missed it the first time:
Fox News’ Shephard Smith says there’s no conspiracy.
SA had no imagination and cannot conceive of anyone developing an idea or cause on their own. He thinks thst because he gets all his talking points from others then every one else must as well.
You gotta know though, nothing will steel these young people’s determination, drive them to organize nationally, keep them from EVER backing down, quite like being accused by of being unthinking pawns. Yeah, teenagers love that! Especially those that barely escaped with their lives and witnessed the carnage first hand.
The left should stand back and let the right do their thing. Nothing will ensure these kids get out the vote quite like the antics of the right at the moment, I think.
I actually feel bad for this security guard who is now being labeled a coward for not Die Harding into the building. We all like to think that we would have saved those kids, but I’m guessing that many of us would have done the same as this guy did.
Maybe if he hadn’t been so overmatched int the firepower department, he would have taken different stock of his odds.
I feel the same way. Let’s say there happened to be an actual PO near by and could’ve been there in time. Would a lone PO charge into this unknown situation or called for backup and waited? I have a very strong suspicion the PO wouldn’t have charged in either.
I kind of do, too, but he wasn’t a security guard. He was a police officer assigned to the school. I would rather limit access to guns so no one is in his position.
Except the risks of entering the building are not diminished if there are two cops. Or four cops really. Whoever is going in, exact same personal risk.
This cop hung outside while children were being slaughtered, I bet his fellow officers are none too happy with him. I think that many would not have been able to Wait!
Unfortunately the hero worship of law enforcement tarnishes when they fail to act heroically, especially when the situation to do so, presents itself.
We give them props for ‘putting their lives on the line’ to protect us. This cop wasn’t willing to do that is how it looks.
Reagan was shot with very well armed and well trained guards next to him. Would some pistol-packing math teachers done any better? Parkland had a sheriff’s deputy on the premises, yet he did nothing. Would little Miss Grundy, English Lit teacher transform into Rambo?
Arming teachers- a moronic idea developed by imbeciles to give talking points to halfwits.
“The only thing that stops a bad man with a gun is a good man with a gun”
-People that sell guns.
As a pro-gun-ownership advocate of Second Amendment repeal, I want you to know I appreciate that. And if repeal does ever happen, I will have your back in principled opposition if anyone then tries to enact draconian legislation banning all guns for everybody or similar nonsense. #GunOwning:NotARightButNotWrong
No, but you’ll want to get the interview on tape before Roy Moore tries to put his dick in their mouths.
