MrDibble read the testimony of McQueary and specifically said that it matches what happened to him. How the hell could you possibly know that it “was materially different”?
I might have been more willing to use your proper name if you hadn’t been such an eager shithead in regard to me every chance you’ve had the last six years.
Wouldn’t you say the fact that you had to badger me into addressing it with you would be a pretty good indicator I didn’t want to confront you about it even though I thought your circumstance was materially different?
I was being respectful of your feelings as a past rape victim. I still am. Of you as a person, I’m far less respectful at this point.
Yeah, and I know you all think I’m bothered by mention of it. You’re wrong about that too.
That’s right, I didn’t.
Recognizing the possibility your perception might have been off is not calling you a liar. Not even close. My home was broken into once by a guy who came into my bedroom several times as he roamed around the house. I told the cops he was about 6’1" and 195 pounds. Turned out he was about 5’9" and 155 pounds. My guess is that you came charging into that thread in high dudgeon intending to smite me with the incontestable facts of your experience and prove me wrong for everyone in the thread to see. Then you got pissed when first of all I tried to avoid you, then you got pissed even further when I suggested that as a young boy experiencing a horrible crime your perception might have been off, something that under any other circumstance anyone would think quite reasonable, and then you’ve been pissed off ever since because I never came around. And while you’re certainly free to do all that, it isn’t incumbent on me to divine it or to act upon it in a way to somehow satisfy you. As I said, you’ve been an absolute jerk to me going on six years now when what I did was try to respect your feelings, avoid confronting you and then when badgered into it tried to express my doubts in as tactful a manner as I could. So shove it.
But you’ve been waiting for one all this time anyway?
Cool, a twofer. Didn’t call you a liar, never defended a pedophile rapist.
Look, I’m truly very sorry for what happened to you. Nothing like that should ever happen to anyone. But as it pertains to me it’s way past time for you to let it go. Your current M.O. can’t be healthy.
You sick fuck.
No, like I said upthread, I’m beginning to think it’s you wierdos who can’t let it go who are the real sickos on this issue. It isn’t healthy to be obsessing over this stuff like you people do. You really need to let it go. You’ll be happier people and so will all the other posters who won’t have to read your disgusting nonsense every time I wind up in the Pit.
It’s stunning that someone could be so unable to admit that they might possibly have made a mistake that they’d rather insist they know better than a survivor of child rape about whether and how a child could be raped than admit that the survivor probably has a more accurate understanding of child rape than they do.
Wait. The dotard is now claiming he didn’t say what he said in the Paterno thread? I guess I can understand wanting to pretend like it didn’t happen, but it’s right there for everyone to see.
You’re a conservative, and therefore, you’re a “realist” based on your own very limited set of life experiences, which you assume to be universal but really aren’t in any way. And rather than trying to understand that fact, you just double down on the assumption that your experiences are what really matter, and fuck everyone else’s.
Great way to start a dialogue.:rolleyes:
Don’t worry, SA. Our friends at the American Civil Liberals Union will make sure sodomy is legal once we win the mid-term elections. Then your boy Jerry can get out and go back to “hugging” young athletic boys in the showers again.
And don’t call us “weirdos” and “sickos.” That’s hate speech.
Quick: How is Campbell’s Soup like Joe Paterno’s coaching squad? They come in little cans! (Muahahahaha) ALL HAIL SOROS!
Soros!
For most of us there came a time on the internet where we learned to filter ourselves as we found that the anonymity promised us in the 1990s was anything but, and that the things we say on the net can affect our lives, careers, relationships, etc. I had my moment, many reading these words had theirs. Now I just assume anything I say can be made public and that everybody can watch me at any time.
Let’s just say that I hope SA does a better job of covering his tracks than I did, for if I found out my dad/granddad/uncle were making these arguments on a public internet forum, I would be immediately, and gravely, concerned.
You could just say “I’m a raging hypocrite”, it’s shorter.
No,
I’d say it’s an indicator you’re a coward.
Calling me a liar is not respectful of my feelings, idiot.
Sure, grandpa, whatever you say…
No, you saying “That did not happen the way you said it did” is you calling me a liar.
…so much bullshit. I proved you wrong and your only way to keep your sick paedo defence alive is to call me a liar. The rest is you projecting your own shitty observational skills onto me.
I’m sure it’s been longer than that - probably from when you were first complaining how today’s Negros are more uppity than back in the 50s (my paraphrase, of course)
…by calling me delusional.
You suck harder at tact than you do at defending paedosphiles.
…into a toiletroll tube, old timer? That’s more your speed than mine.
Did I ever say that? Quite the opposite, in fact.
Anyone who can read,
can plainly see you’ve done both.
I give zero fucks what you’re sorry for, you sad creep.
I’ll let it go around the time you fuck off from here for good, not before.
No, it’s quite cathartic.
I believe he’s said in the past that he keeps his family in the dark about his postings here, which suggests that he is at least dimly aware that they may not wholly embrace his peculiar views.
Poor, poor Starving Artist. Truly no violin is small enough to properly provide the right musical ambiance to dramatize his annoying whine.
He proclaims himself a conservative, but do we call him Starving Artist the Realist? No, no we do not.
He again proclaims that he’s really a conservative, but do we call him Starving Artist the Optimist? Again no, we do not, and we’d like a cite on that part.
But he fucks one cardboard tube to defend a kiddy diddler …
Or maybe there’s a restraining order in place.
Okay, now I get to call you a liar. You. are. a. liar! A lying liar who lies!
And congratulations! Now I have cause to suspect the validity of your rape claim as well. For all I know you made it up out of whole cloth because you thought would be a sure-fire way to undercut my argument, and you’ve been seething ever since because it didn’t work. You yourself admitted that your animus toward me predates the Paterno thread so you certainly had motive.
See, here’s the thing when one is shown to be a liar - everything they say or have said becomes suspect.
Good job.
My family and friends are aware of my general political leanings, which, btw, are more liberal than anyone here would be able to recognize, but exist nonetheless. I’m not on board with everything liberals want but my primary objection is with the way they go about trying to achieve them, which usually entails fucking up a dozen other things so as to make one thing marginally better, and the fact that an endless slippery slope is usually involved.
But be that as it may, this is the only place where I act like this. What goes around comes around, and my behavior here is nothing but a response to the dishonesty and insults and hatred that I was greeted with from my very first day here. Still, by and large I took the place seriously for a while and tried taking the high road for the most part, and naturally it got me nowhere. So I decided to fight fire with fire and here we are.
Pretty much the same thing is going on nationally too. You guys started with the insults and hatred in the late sixties and now it’s boomeranging on you and the country has become divided into two warring camps that hate each other, and the right has become so fed up with you that they put on their own Starving Artist costume and put Donald Trump in the White House.
The rest of the world knows me as a nice and likable guy. You people know me as you do because of the way you are.
Dude. “Showering lessons”?
We started it in the 60s, huh. So the fact that my parents couldn’t move into our neighborhood until the late 70s because “no Jews allowed” was conservative USA being nice. Silly us, demanding we be treated as people. Not asking nicely but demanding.
To the privileged, equality feels like discrimination. Poor, poor dear.
What really gets me is the unkindness and indecency. You claim to be a kind and decent person, but posts like this belie that. Kind and decent people don’t challenge survivors of child rape on their claims, they don’t say they might be wrong about their own experiences, they don’t call them liars, etc.
What a shame.
Bad things exist in every country and in every time. The key is to correct them in ways that are mature, intelligent and reasoned rather than by twisting off like a pop bottle rocket in all directions at once and making ten things worse for every one that gets even slightly better. Women’s suffrage, the end of prohibition and important civil rights legislation were all enacted prior to the counterculture era and without turning the country into the vile, vulgar, drug and crime infested, poorly-educated cesspool it is today.