People without insurance often go to the E.R., which is the most expensive route. Even if they have no resources at all, it isn’t free. Somebody pays. The hospital may write the treatment of as ‘charity’. They make up for it with higher prices for people who can pay. Higher prices mean insurance companies have to pay more. Of course, they don’t do that out of the goodness of their (ostensible) hearts. They raise premiums. People of a certain political bent wonder why they should pay for freeloaders’ treatment. They don’t understand that they’re already paying the bills through higher premiums. But they’d rather pay more than they have to, just so they can have their illusory ‘high ground’.
Maybe crafty is the wrong word, although I’ll note that only 32 percent of people think they will get money from this tax cut when the real number is about 80 percent.
Maybe a better word for it is that most people don’t have that kind of chutzpah. For example, I once had a friend who bought an air conditioner in June and returned it 89 days later when there was a 90 day moneyback guarantee. He got major side-eye from the return people, but they honored their policy. Most people would feel pretty sheepish about pulling something like that.
For example, the economy would have been in much more trouble if all the people underwater on their home loans had walked away. Financially, that would have been the correct move. But most people felt that they borrowed a certain amount of money and it would not be right for them to renege.
I would also note that there’s only a limited signup window each year. So what if your unexpected health problem crops up during the rest of the year?
Was he a Conservative?
Corporations never reserve or trade stocks? Wow!
I’m not saying it’s even planned. Someone decides to screw ACA, they’re pretty healthy, etc. Then something terrible happens. Why not buy insurance? You can bet the doctors at the local cancer center will be recommending that.
Pre-existing conditions is certainly the next to go preventing you from buying insurance.
The entire insurance mandate was to get more people insured at a younger age to cover this. Spread the risk. That’s what insurance is.
Without the mandate to buy insurance, costs are going to have to go up.
I hope every single ambassador who votes no spells out their own name and that of their country’s.
Explain, please. Not where I can easily search for what you’re talking about. Thanks.
2 sides to the argument it appears. First said DJ should be seated before the vote, IE, he was entitled to be seated as soon as he was certified the winner. The other side, I think McConnell, said he’d get seated sometime in January.
I was trying to find out how he’d voted ( I don’t totally trust him) and found the above. I don’t know what actually happened, but it appears DJ was screwed out of his vote. My Google fails me here.
He would say definitely not. He says he likes Bernie. I guess he’s some kind of anarcho-leftist hippie, but supports gun rights and calls my politics “Stalinist” and “nanny statist”. He’s weird.
Not a chance. Republicans would never have passed a provision like that, but once it’s in place, they don’t dare repeal it (maybe Rand Paul and a couple other hardcore types, but nowhere close to a majority even of their own caucus). That, and the rule letting kids stay on their parents’ policies until age 25, are sacrosanct. Guaranteed.
As said, no pre-existing condition clause doesn’t mean the elimination of open enrollment periods. If you get sick and don’t have insurance, and don’t have a qualifying “life event”, you can’t get insurance until the next open enrollment.
When open enrollment comes, you can’t be turned down for a pre existing condition.
I read this as a meme. Any evidence that this is true?
“Trump won’t sign the new tax bill until January. Because Congressional rules say the Medicare cuts that are in the tax bill go into effect immediately if he signs the bill this year. If he waits until January, those cuts don’t come until 2019, and Republicans won’t suffer in midterm elections.”
I’m not sure what would give you that idea; they repeatedly tried to nullify the ACA restriction banning pre-existing clauses during the multiple Trumpcare bills they failed to pass.
Only a few Republicans voted against the bills; to their credit, every single Democrat voted against.
I think they learned their lesson from the healthcare battle and just started bribing the small handful of GOP politicians who still have a working conscience by inserting riders that personally benefit the No votes, as evidenced by Corker flipping his vote on the tax bill when a new provision was inserted at the last minute that would save him $1.1 million/year on his real estate taxes.
If I’m wrong and they would actually do something that stupid, then even better. They will get completely wiped out in the next election and the rule will be very quickly reinstated, along with a lot of other stuff.
I’ve been watching this closely both on primary sources and on progressive internet outlets that haven’t been shy about tearing this tax bill a new one provision-by-provision, and haven’t seen or heard anything about this. Or, for that matter, seen anything indicating there is a cut to Medicare hidden in the bill.
They’ll likely attack Medicare and Social Security next year (cough, “reform” them), and use the giant hole this tax bill blows in the budget as a justification, but I haven’t seen anything about Medicare getting cut in this bill.
CHIP, on the other hand - which provides health insurance for 9 million children of working-poor adults - has already been de-funded by the GOP as of October, and the states are using up what little they have left in their budgets for it.
Here in CO they are already running dry and have sent letters indicating that children on CHIP will lose their health insurance effective 01/31/2018.
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Yes … nice and legible, easy to read.
Taking names… oh please. :smack:
This recent WaPo article says
So, it could be true.
Interesting/horrifying. Thanks for the link, guess we’ll see how that plays out.
A later link, confirming Rick Kitchen’s post.
My four kids were on CHIP their whole lives from January 2000 until August of this year, so I just dodged that bullet. Guess it’s time to become a Republican!