The Trump deportation news thread

[bobot]

Ahh, like the people who were “made” to vote for Trump.
I never buy “you made me”.

[crowmanyclouds]

@Dewey_Finn

I doubt that Home Depot has an explicit policy to co-operate with ICE. They may just be complying with the law, such as by not denying entry to ICE when the arrive for a raid.

Is Home Depot demanding ICE when they arrive for a raid show a judicial (not administrative) warrant or is Home Depot giving consent.

[Dewey_Finn]

It’s a retail store open to the public. Is there any need for a warrant?

Note that I’m not defending the goons but Home Depot may have consulted with counsel and is doing what they are required to.

[Northern_Piper]

@bobot

Ahh, like the people who were “made” to vote for Trump.
I never buy “you made me”.

That’s not what I’m saying.

I’m saying that most people are rather selfish, and when personally inconvenienced, they will blame the immediate cause of the inconvenience, in this case, protesters, rather than the apparently innocent retail outlet.

[Northern_Piper]

@crowmanyclouds

Is Home Depot demanding ICE when they arrive for a raid show a judicial (not administrative) warrant or is Home Depot giving consent.

Based on this information from LII, an administrative warrant is issued by a judge. The difference is a lower standard of proof:

An administrative warrant is a warrant obtained from a judge by an administrative body to search for violations of administrative rules and regulations. While similar to a criminal warrant, an administrative warrant requires a lower standard of probable cause to be granted. Administrative warrants are governed by 49 USC §32707.

Administrative agencies granted enforcement powers rely on the use of administrative warrants to ensure compliance with their standards. For example, the Environmental Protection Agency may obtain an administrative warrant to investigate whether a factory is complying with waste dumping requirements. The warrant also gives the administration the authority to confiscate any contraband discovered through one of these investigations.

As Dewey_Finn says, Home Depot may have received legal advice that they are required to comply with that warrant.

[Railer13]

@Northern_Piper

they will blame the immediate cause of the inconvenience, in this case, protesters, rather than the apparently innocent retail outlet.

And that indignation against the protestors will spur them to stand in line for 45 minutes to buy their stuff, rather than drive 30 minutes to Lowe’s or Ace?

As you state, people are selfish.

[puzzlegal]

If it’s open to the public, do they need a warrant at all?

[crowmanyclouds]

I’m no lawyer but 49 USC §32707,

(3)The judge or magistrate shall issue the warrant when the judge or magistrate decides there is a reasonable basis for believing that probable cause exists to issue the warrant. The warrant must—
(A)identify the premises, property, or motor vehicle to be inspected and the items or type of property to be impounded;

does not seem to be about arresting people.

[Dewey_Finn]

A know-your-rights webpage from the ACLU of Northern California says

ICE can enter areas open to the general public (dining area, parking lot, waiting room) of a business without permission. But that does not give ICE the authority to detain, question, or arrest anyone.

[DavidNRockies]

Next up? Haitians:

Trump says Haiti no longer meets requirements for TPS. Haitians have to leave - Miami Herald

Though, in fairness, they may need a few more hands to defend their outlying islands from marauding American MAGA loons.

[PatrickLondon]

In this morning’s paper (I make no comment):

Mother of Karoline Leavitt’s nephew detained by US immigration agents

[Darren_Garrison]

ICE harrassing Marilyn from Northern Exposure

ICE agents detained indigenous actress — then accused her of faking her...