The Trump Impeachment Inquiry

That might not be what she’s saying. A “resolution to appoint managers and transmit articles of impeachment to the Senate” is different from a resolution appointing managers and transmitting articles of impeachment to the Senate. The latter would identify the managers and the date of transmittal, while the former would save those steps for a future time.

Dog-wagging, like weenie-wagging and tongue-wagging, are too obvious to ignore.

I agree with #6800 - Next Tuesday is a date for another date.

30 minute trial? That’s longer than I thought moscow mitch was planning.

Uh-huh. Sure. Hugh Betcha. Sue folds while the cards are being shuffled.

Really, the Republican party as a whole should just go all the way. Organize their own paramilitary organization, and have the Democrat party deemed illegal. Round up all of their political enemies and imprison them.

“Your papers are in order, citizen. Why are your papers in order?”

She could just grab her friends Murkowski, Paul, and Lee, join the Democratic caucus, and BOOM! Everything that’s needed to ensure a fair trial.

But that would require actually DOING something, rather than implying she not be a craven liar. THIS TIME, she might just actually follow through. I’m not holding my breath.

“I have never seen such clever forgeries.”

“President Donald Trump on Friday said he planned to invoke executive privilege in the event former national security adviser John Bolton was subpoenaed by lawmakers for the Senate impeachment trial.”

So can Trump actually prevent Bolton from testifying if it comes to that? More than a dozen people testified despite Trump’s claim of divine immunity, or whatever he calls it. Some claimed they were torn between obeying Congress, or obeying the president, so it seems the person has a choice. Bolton himself said that absent a ruling he decided for himself that he should testify.

Can Trump do anything to stop him? Again, if it even comes to that…

No, he can’t, if the witness decides to just testify. It’s not like the Executive Privilege Police will swoop in. All it would do is give Bolton or whoever an out.

And John Bolton knows that.

So he says that he’ll testify and then he’ll back down over a totally unexpected challenge on grounds of executive privilege:rolleyes:

Like I said, Bolton is only going to talk if Trump chickens out and doesn’t put extreme pressure on Iran.

An interesting (at least to me) question: If you are a Republican House member who voted against impeachment, should you vote against transmitting the articles?

On one hand, if you don’t believe that Trump should be removed, it seems to make sense to take any lawful action to keep the possibility from happening. On the other, you would like to see the process finally dismissed.

Could there be a coalition of Republicans and Democrats that would gain a majority of votes not to transmit, Nancy’s agreement notwithstanding?

  1. I’ve never heard anyone say that they would never, never, ever vote to convict Trump. The only thing that they have said is that they would not vote to convict based upon this evidence. And, once again, this is not like a criminal trial and senators are not jurors.

  2. The rules haven’t been set on witnesses in this trial. I’m sure that the House Managers can present the televised testimony of all of the witnesses they called in front of them. If 51 senators want to let them call Bolton, they can call Bolton. If 51 senators think that they should have done that already, took the House at its word that the impeachable conduct is already clear without hearing from Bolton, and are not going to allow for a fishing expedition in the Senate, they can do that.

Is Pelosi asking anyone’s permission to transmit or not transmit? I hadn’t heard that it was something to be voted on. Did I miss something?

Then fucking pay attention:

I hope you’ve been educated.

I don’t give a fuck about the rules as they stand now. I’m asking YOUR opinion.

This is as likely as a coalition of Republicans and Democrats that could gain a majority to force McConnell to not be a sycophantic slug.

The reality is that, this time, the political wizard in the House, Pelosi, has been out-played by the political wizard in the Senate, Moscow Mitch. It’s time to transmit the articles and be done with it, and Pelosi knows it.

Or table them. Why not just wait until the Senate is able to conduct a fair trial. Of course that’s bullshit but the world runs on bullshit.

You know this is how Himmler was caught, right?