Well the whistleblower’s attorney has already reached out to Congress to testify. If the WB report doesn’t match what the White House releases, then Trump is gonna be fucked. If McConnell is asking for the report it means he knows it’s manageable. If Trump was stonewalling and McConnell was asking for the repoirt, I’d say there was a chance of a rebellion, but right now it looks like they think it can be downplayed.
This is bullshit that does nothing to put things in historical context.
Walter Nixon was convicted of perjury, sentenced to five years, and refused to resign even though he was incarcerated. So he was removed from the bench using impeachment.
This is not remotely parallel to Clinton’s impeachment.
The polling on this is really weird. If you read the 538 article linked in post 2, it’s true that impeachment is pretty unpopular. But it’s clearly NOT because people outside his base are buying Trump’s bullshit.
If the polling is to be believed, there’s about 20% of the country who DON’T identify as Trump supporters, who DO believe that he colluded with Russia and subsequently obstructed the investigation into the said collusion…but who still don’t want him impeached because…reasons?
Who are these people?! Are they just partisan Democrats who think impeachment is a bad political move? If so, I would expect those numbers to move pretty quickly as that group adopts the new party line. If not, I honestly can’t imagine what their thought process might be.
How is a meaningless and impotent indictment “doing what’s right for the country”? You are talking as if there is the slightest change trump will be removed- hint- he wont be.
It seems pretty clear to me that we were discussing impeachment of President Trump and various and sundry other Republicans, but I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt. What was it you posted “the majority can dream” about? “a reckoning, a purge”?
I remember when Nixon resigned there were people literally crying in the streets. I don’t think they were necessarily Nixon supporters; I think they were more likely just people who loved their country and hated to see it destabilized by such a national crisis.
What I hope people would realize is that though they may love their country, the Orange Peril and his henchmen do not. They care only about themselves, and are willing to defy the Constitution and all the traditional norms of governance to consolidate their power and enrich themselves. They are exactly the abusers of power that the Founders provided for Congress to be able to remove.
So there’s gonna be an impeachment “inquiry”, this fact has already been announced, due to a call that nobody knows the contents of, and a whistle blower who nobody yet knows anything about, or the contents of his complaint.
During prime time political campaigning, a year before the next presidential election.
And the left expects the electorate to believe this a completely non-partisan and objective investigation.
And the left is gonna do it anyway, knowing that impeachment is an unpopular position.
And the left wants the electorate to believe that they are not using the congress as a political tool to fuck the opposition.
Bold plan, Democrats. Bold plan.
I predict that the Dems will shield and block the whistleblower from scrutiny and hide any political bias apparent in the character of the whistleblower.
It’s like they’re handing 2020 to trump on a silver platter.
As I mentioned, when I said “The Majority,” I was referring to the majority of voters who didn’t vote for Trump in 2016. I’m sure that those people would be happy to be rid of his pox upon the country.
But, that’s not the same as saying that the majority of voters want him impeached. I’m not sure I do, unless unimpeachable (heh) evidence is uncovered to make conviction a slam-dunk. But, I would still like to be rid of him.
As I’ve said before, if our governmental system survives this episode, one consequence is going to be the development of a lot more explicit legislative checks on the executive, and probably judiciary checks on the legislature as well. We’ll have actual laws, rather than just time-honored “protocols”, requiring the POTUS to release his tax returns and blind-trust his assets and conform to a schedule for filling administrative positions and so forth.
And if so, then I guess Trump’s dishonest pledges of “draining the swamp” will in some sense have been fulfilled after all. “I made the swamp so incredibly bigly and stinky, the most massive stink ever, believe me, that the Loser Dems had no choice but to drain it! MAGA!!”