Read the transcript out loud at a conversational speed and see how long it takes you. 10 minutes? 12? Then realize that the call is logged at 30 minutes long.
Requiring a quid pro quo is like saying: Sure he stabbed him, but there wasn’t any blood.
True. But the memorandum of the telephone conversation does have a quid pro quo, so not even that argument is available as a defense.
It’s going to really hurt when that right wing bubble you’ve wrapped yourself in bursts. Reality is coming and the right is going to have to acknowledge it eventually or get left behind. You can’t expect a false alternate reality to last forever, no matter how much you want it to, and we can’t continue indefinitely with this two different worlds we live in. There is only one real world, and the Fox News/alt-right version ain’t it. The sooner you recognize that the less painful it will be.
I don’t think any of them have what it takes to beat trump, especially face to face. That’s the tough thing about him, he always shoots from the hip, unrehearsed. His points are genuine, his insults raw. Everyone else is rehearsed, talking points, non-genuine political babble.
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This reads like a bit of a threat.
Reality feels threatening to you?
So it turns out to be a nothing-burger. Or a status-quo burger. Enough for the Democrats to pounce. Not enough for the GOP to be compelled to abandon Trump.
What’s for dinner?
The fact that you feel threatened by what I wrote is pretty telling, considering what I said is that accepting reality is important.
Projection.
Says who? Who is the arbiter of such things? Everything I’m seeing is about how damning this is. Sure there are those that are claiming what you say, but claims do not equal reality.
If your standard is what will make the GOP abandon Trump, then everything will be a nothingburger. But why on earth would you make that your standard? The Dems don’t need GOP votes to impeach or to force the GOP on the record about why this conduct is OK.
I literally just came here to post this. It took me less than 5. Honestly, what I did read I was bad enough. Right after Zelensky says he’s going to buy more Javelins, Trump says “I’d like you to do me a favor though.” And of course Zelensky managed to fit in that he stayed at the Trump Hotel while he was in the US.
If you guys had so much support and backing you wouldn’t of lost the election, hundreds of judges, the Supreme Court, and very likely the next election too.
That’s the reality.
Regarding impeachment helping or harming Trump, and what I said in post #128, I just saw this Politico article, which is about a poll showing a lack of support for impeachment. Typical of articles like this, it says nothing about how an impeachment would actually affect the respondents’ votes, and nothing about why some don’t support it. I once made a half-facetious comment to a friend that a big reason that it’s not supported may be that people don’t want it to screw up their TV viewing. And also, giving the horrendously low opinion that people have of Congress, they’re sick of them all already, and can’t stomach the idea of having to hear about impeachment from them day in and day out. I read the whole poll, and nothing address the why of it all. I would guess that one reason such questions aren’t asked is that not just the impeachment process itself is enough for one to know how it would affect their vote. Obviously, what comes out in the process is of utmost importance, so why ask a hypothetical? So again, I do not think it’s a given that impeachment hearings, etc, are going to help Trump.
Except you didn’t say that did you. You said the quicker I accept your reality the less painful it will be.
That sounds like a threat.
You should report it.
That’s called confirmation bias.
What does that have to do with the reality of the topic of the thread? That’s what’s scary to you, apparently.