Yup. Rand Paul is just punching the air in front of him, and if anyone walks into it, it’s their fault they got hit.
That argument always works, so I’m sure yours is just as believable.
Well, let’s see: there are 3 possible alternatives…
Paul knows the name of the WB and read it on the Senate floor.
Paul isn’t sure of the name, but read a name he believed to be the WB.
Paul doesn’t know the name but put some rando’s name in the record and out on the right-wing idiotsphere.
Any of those explanations are inexcusable bullshit.
There have been many names mentioned during the trial. If you name “John Bolton” for example nobody goes apeshit, therefore Bolton is not the whistleblower. Repeat any other name and no reaction.
I’m not defending Rand Paul as he generally is an asshole, but he’s exposed the flaw in the “we always deny the whistleblower” theory as the people who are protecting it overreact and thereby expose the person.
This defense of Paul is just… Odd.
I mean, the logic in this argument is just not even wrong.
Let’s say hypothetically that Paul did in fact find a way to trick “the system” into confirming who the whistleblower is. If he actually used his “one weird trick” to do so, it’s clearly an “asshole” (read unethical) move. The non-asshole move would be to try to avoid getting into a situation where the whistleblower’s identity could be revealed.
If this is a sidetrack, I apologize, but: isn’t Rand Paul a libertarian? You know, those people who are skeptical of Government and all its doings?
So, shouldn’t libertarians applaud whistle-blowing, given that it is the act of reporting on The Government’s misconduct?
Aside from that: what the freak is wrong with that guy? What a fetishist.
I’m sorry, but if you want to debate whether rules of evidence apply to an impeachment trial, you will have to either start a separate thread or send me a PM (or both!). Otherwise we are just two people disagreeing with each other.
~Max
You’re being facetious, right?
:looks at username:
No, he’s not being facetious.
Thos is what you return to the thread to post? You completely ignore all the prior posts about Dershowitz’s inaccurate defense of Trump and your completely false assertion about refuting my arguments?
You do you, I guess.
I have no desire to debate it either. Mostly because there is no debate. Hearsay rules of evidence dont apply to impeachment proceedings unless adopted. And they weren’t. So no debate needs happen.
Absolutely correct. We do disagree. Hiwever, one of us (me) is correct, and the other (you) is wrong.
This.
I don’t know how “powerful” it is that Romney voted the way he did today but I’m not so cynical as to buy the idea that he did this only because he knew it wouldn’t make a difference. And I don’t believe he would have fallen in line if it was close or that it was done to give cover to anyone.
I watched the speech he gave this morning and I honestly believe he voted this way because he is a principled person, something that is so rare among today’s GOP that a lot of posters on this board are unable to recognize it. He did what he did because he is that rare GOP Senator who believes in the rule of law.
I’ve never been a fan of Romney’s politics but I will admit he convinced me today that he is a Republican who will put country before party. I remember when there were more people like him in the GOP.
Joe Manchin explicitly cited the whole Dershowitz circus as pushing him toward a guilty vote. Great lawyer.
House mangers Republican senators are afraid of Trump.
Republican senators: How dare you?! You’re so offensive! We’re not afraid of our great leader and will vote as our consciences dictate.
Romney: Guilty.
Trump: Failed presidential candidate. Jealous. Sad. Secret Democrat.
*Because no true Republican would ever think or speak in any way that contradicts him, obviously. *
Donald Trump, Jr.: “He’s now officially a member of the resistance and should be expelled from the GOP”
The “resistance”? Really?
OK, get a grip. He’s not Spartacus…
No, Spartacus has died. 
At age 103.
Shocked that Trump is bashing Romney today. 
Hopefully Dershowitz is done after this. Hard to believe he was taken seriously with the allegations over his own head. But he lost me years ago before that came out. Have you ever heard him speak about Israel/Palestine? Specifically his rabid attacks on those who have dissenting voices to his. The guy is a bigot of the highest order.
Shocked that he’s doing it so mildly. Nerf bashing.
Looks like someone took Trump’s phone away from him. He hasn’t been posting much, if any, on Twitter today.