The United States Declares Economic War on Canada

:frowning:

Sadly, we are Germany in the 1930s. Should the time come, I hope you will welcome refugees. (We can walk to White Rock, BC at low tide. We just have to bring our cats.)

In the meantime, I’ll take some consolation that a hero of the Right prophesied Trump perfectly with a description of Salvador Allende

And why I just came back from Safeway.

This. Trump doesn’t believe in mutually profitable relationships, those are for “losers” “Winners” take in return for nothing. He doesn’t want a trade network between sovereign nations, he wants an imperial America receiving tribute from its subjects.

I’ll be going shopping in the morning as well.

You may have to dodge the invading US Army.

I wish people would stop characterizing Americans by our horrifically bad president. Trump got less than 50% of the popular vote this last election. Most Americans did NOT want him as president. Many of us have been overwhelmed by feelings of loss, betrayal, and doom.
We get it: you’re angry. So are we. To be stereotyped like this, though, is rubbing salt in our wounds.

I’ll ask the same question I asked in one of the other threads: where are the Congress reps and the Senators who are trying to rein in Trump to prevent this economic war?

If there are none or few, then it’s the US that is at fault, not just a president.

However that doesn’t matter, since we have no voice in what happens anymore. And are unlikely to ever have one in the future, either. When the US pours its troops over the border the fact that millions of Americans don’t want it to happen will change nothing.

Trump got 49.8% of the popular vote.

That tells me that a greater percentage of Americans voted for a fascist president than the percentage of Germans who voted for a Nazi chancellor in 1933 (43.9%)

Sadly, the majority of Americans who oppose Trump and his fascist cultists declined to vote. Apathy is the enemy of democracy.

The utterly stupid thing about it all is that free, unfettered trade is how wealth is generated here, in the US, Canada, and Mexico. Tariffs and restrictive trade practices just limit the amount of money to be made.

You’d think someone elected President would be smart enough to either realize this or listen when his people explain it to him, but apparently not.

Exactly! Plus the churches will get less money when the prices rise.

Add my name to the list of Americans who apologize for this idiocy.

The only thing that might reverse this is if the stock markets drops sufficiently on Monday. “Sufficiently” meaning at least double percentage digits. It’s already dropped smaller amounts, but there needs to be a big drop to get Trump’s attention.

Maybe if the Fed has an emergency meeting and raised interest rates, it would also get his attention. Trump wants interest rates to go down, so raising them might do the job.

Oh, but Trump is a master negotiator, a great businessman. He went to the Wharton School of Business, after all.

[Sarcasm off.]

But many Americans believe this. They don’t know, or refuse to believe that, Trump cannot negotiate his way out of a paper bag. His “negotiation style” is a zero-sum game, where he wins, you lose. That’s not negotiating; that’s bullying.

Bullies fade away when you stand up to them. I hope we in Canada can stand up and take this bully down. Our country can weather this shitstorm coming from one single Yank whom we did not even get the chance to vote for or against, but who thinks he can control our country and its people. We are strong; we can do this.

This is P&E, so I will refrain from further remarks, which would be profanity-ridden, and likely more be suitable for the Pit.

But when you then add in the +/- 40% who just couldn’t be bothered to vote on who was POTUS then you have a super majority of Americans who were absolutely sanguine about his return.

Cant Canada turn to Europe for better trade agreements, and ditch the US for 4 years?

Is there a railway that crosses the Atlantic?

As in “Go fuck yourself, pardon my French”?

Agree. We ain’t all bad.