the vista love thread

The BBQ Pit
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this started as a reply to “Roaming profile - stop putting back all the microshit links!”, but kind of took on a life of it’s own so made a new thread.

Windows keeps randomly adding short cuts to my start menu in the main programs folder. The thing is I already have them in organized subfolders in my start menu. Internet explorer is in start -> programs-> productivity -> internet where I ignore it except to to mock it by making it load thisbrowsersucks.com

However fucking god damned windows keeps making a new shortcut in my programs folder. Same for windows media player, and windows mail.

GOD damn goat fuckers at Microsoft take a hint! if I don’t want the short cut there don’t keep putting it there!

I don’t put pictures of steve balmer blowing sheep’s balls (which he does everyday) on your stuff Microsoft, why do you have to keeping putting your shitty program short cuts where I don’t want them? And people thinking you use IE is just as bad the goat blowing, believe me.

I also don’t want your shitty programs piled up in the main folder because you incompetent assholes messed up the start menu and put a scroll bar in it. What the hell is wrong with you? Why would you do that?
And where is fucking up button you morons? I wanna shove my foot up your ass for that. That POS bread crumb thing is a hassle to use, but it’d suppliment an up button nicely, if I had both.

Btw why can’t I move the fucking toolbars? you idiots put the buttons right where I don’t want them. I want the menu bar there, where my hand has trained it’s self to automatically go when I need it.

And where the fuck are my networking Icons? Yea I can enable that ONE icon, but my computer act as the gateway so it’s connected to both the LAN and my ISP’s network. I would like one icon for each network like XP. You had it right in XP. Why would you fuckers change it? Before if a network computer wasn’t connecting I could use the separate icons to tell if it was a local LAN issue or my ISP was at fault.

NOT ANYMORE YOU FUCKERS.

Not to mention your clumsy network thing don’t even show activity. I could be downloading like a mofo but the icon might light up once every ten seconds.

how the fuck should I know if blinking every 10 seconds means a lot of traffic or little? a lot of traffic with no known source is a security red flag you idiots made my computer less secure by removing that useful visual cue. Rot in hell you rat bastards.

love,
me

PS:Seriously does anyone know how to get separate icontray icons per network connection? Maybe make them that light up with any traffic just like the old ones? Maybe a 3rd party program?

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I’ve ended up the tech support for one of my coworkers. She doesn’t know computers at all. And the boss gave her a machine with Vista. WHY? So I go over to her desk, have to fiddle around with things to figure out where stuff is, and then finally can show her. Why the hell did they have to rename and rearrange everything? And then take away all the labels?

I will move to a Mac before I use Vista.

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Try leaving them there but changing the property to hidden.

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Why would that be a bad thing? You’re a graphic designer, Macs are the holy grail for us!

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This is for a work computer, right?

Because Vista costs money. You gotta go out and buy it. Kinda lame to go out and buy something and then be all pissed at it. Especially when there’s a lot of other options, even free ones.

But you didn’t buy it…right?

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That’s what they all said about XP.

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Thanks! That’s a good idea.

God no. Paying for Vista is like paying an alien to anal probe you with razor wire.

Like all timeless curses, it came with the computer.

I installed another hard drive and put Hardy Heron on it, but one of my courses is intro to computers and the text book is full of Vista screenshots. So gotta familiarize myself with it for when class starts.
Like Silver Tyger Girl said they moved everything around. It’s a mess.

Plus I do have some windows only games, and it’d either be pirate xp, hope and pray to the gods of wine, or hold my nose and use vista to play them. Although I haven’t had time to play them in awhile now.

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I have 6 graphic design busineses among my regular customer base, out of about 25 computers between them there are 2 Macs.

Holy Grail my ass…

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Yup…its so nostaligic after listing to all of the shreiking when XP rolled out…

I was using vista 4 months before it came out offically (yay devnet) My machine is still running the same install of Vista for almost 2 years.

Only cashiers and wet babies like change. Don’t worry, we got some nice fresh diapers for all the crying babies.

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WTF is this supposed to mean?

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Clearly he means he puts diapers on the heads of crying babies to smother them, thereby dealing with the problems of tears and crying at a single stroke. Either that, or babies he deals with have some very, very badly misconnected tear ducts.

It’s amazing what technology can do when properly applied.

And quite incidentally, I’ll move to Vista when I have to - and only at work, because I get no choice. My sysadmin is holding out as long as he can, though, so long may XP reign. At home, I’m seriously considering the move to Ubuntu as a dual-boot, when I can get the time to reformat my laptop. I have used Vista once or twice (and felt dirty and showered for a long time after) at work, and it’s incredibly annoying. I don’t have quite the same sort of concentrated hate that the OP expresses, but everything’s different and mostly for the worse - the Programs menu, the file-browsing dialog, and the performance. The prettiness leaves me feeling like I’ve wandered into a tinsel-covered cake, and I loathe it. Give me functional, for god’s sake. Please.

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Good someone experienced!

Perhaps you can tell me how to get my up button back?

Just use the bread crumb isn’t a valid answer. I found a 3rd party program that adds an up button but it’s shareware. I’m not too keen to have to buy from a 3rd party something that’s a basic file browsing thing, and should have came built in. Besides I’m broke.

Maybe you know how to fix the broken networking icons too?

That’d be super. Thanks :slight_smile:

btw Dervorin OP was just using hyperbole to express dislike. Although use it for a month and you’ll think my post didn’t go far enough.

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Yeah, the missing up button was a definite downturn, I have to agree. Even worse, I really dislike not having the “my computer” structure on the address bar dropdown in a local window. That’s irritating as snot. Why, pray tell, if I have a window open on my D drive, would I be expecting five random ass web sites as a navigation dropdown? Hmm? Does that make any sense? I’m adapting, though, I use the navigation pane on the side of the window and that actually works pretty good.

When I got this lappie I was intending to go back to XP-64 until I started looking for drivers. I managed to find drivers for everything but my wifi because it’s a new chipset and there are NO XP 64 bit drivers for it. So instead I went ahead and popped Vista Ultimate 64 on here because I will NOT go back to a 32 bit OS. I’m one of those weird users that use hardly any third party software, I don’t play games, but I DO stress out the 'puter seriously by having many, many processes running at once and I can seriously choke a 32 bit machine without even trying. The only reason I decided to do Vista was that this box came with 2GB of RAM on it–anything less and you can kiss any sort of expectations of performance goodbye. The SO has a bit less on his box and Vista runs much less smoothly for him than for me. He went back to XP-64 with a weird Vista overlay which duplicates many of the fun things but doesn’t have the overhead. He also had serious backward compatibility issues with a whole crapload of his software so Vista doesn’t make any sense for him.

The one thing I really can’t get used to, though, is the sheer SIZE of Vista. It’s friggin’ monstrous! Bloaty, too–my boot partition is using over 30GB of 50 allocated and most of that is Vista and Office. I wouldn’t try it on any 'puter slower or with less memory than I have now because I suspect it would suck ass. I’m also less than crazy with the stupidy file ownership issue and the paranoid alerts when running software, but I turned all that shit off and now it only does what I goddamned well tell it to!

I don’t mind the appearance part–kinda like it. I spent many years working for a company that wouldn’t upgrade past Win2K and I got very very sick of the “functional” look. I spend a lot of time on this thing, I want it easy on the eyes! The Aero look is quite soothing in purple…

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Re: the up button in the file manager

Just to be clear; clicking on the specific folder name in the breadcrumb trail is not adequate? Not sure what functionality/ease a separate “up” button gives over that, but . . .

. . . to the left of the breadcrumbs there is a pair of forward/backward buttons that accomplish a related task. Navigate down into a folder tree, then use the back button (as in a web browser) to go back. Of course, that just goes “back” to the previous directory, not “up” to the parent. Not really the same thing at all actually; my bad.

Still, I’m not sure what’s wrong with the breadcrumbs. They’re like a dynamic “up” button but instead of just saying “up” it’s labeled with the name of the parent directory.
ETA: This was not meant to be snarky in any way. I’m running Vista, but don’t have a ‘dog’ in the fight. I’m just curious as to what was lost with the removal of the ‘up’ button. I adapted fairly quickly to the new interface and haven’t found a loss of convenience in this issue.

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I’m in the vista lovers camp here, and I can answer a few things–my background is a Linux administrator by job title, with a Vista Business 64-bit laptop for work and a XP Professional 64-bit desktop dual booting Ubuntu 7.10 as my home machine:

  1. Re: separate interface icons for separate network connections–I think this is no longer a windows feature for desktop stuff. Server 2003 still does it. To be honest it was worthless anyway as a performance measurement. On the other hand, the Task Manager has a per-interface connection usage graph that updates in realtime, and is totally sweet.

  2. the alt-up keyboard shortcut still works as a “up button”. That’s about the best I can tell you there. Me personally, I like the breadcrumbs better than I liked the old XP way. If you absolutely have to have an up button that’s not a keyboard shortcut, here’s some freeware action for you: http://qttabbar.wikidot.com/

  3. I’m still continually impressed by the stellar performance of Vista on gamer/enthusiast-class systems as much as I’m horrified by the abysmal performance of Vista on lower-RAM systems. There’s a barrier around 1.75GB of system ram beyond which it totally destroys XP64 in performance, and I mean by up to 20%+. For reference, I have a stock untweaked Vista Business 64 install on this laptop, which has a 1.6Ghz dual-core Turion 64 and 2GB RAM. I can happily run and alt-tab or win-tab between two separate MMO clients (EVE Online and FFXI) and several firefox windows with no problems.

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Cuz all my software is for a PC. hangs head in shame I was raised on Windows, what can I say?

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Is Vista dual boot friendly?

I’m convinced MS finally designed a very good operating system in Windows 2000, got completely confused because this was new territory for them, and quickly released XP to screw it up a little bit, enough so that they felt comfortable again.

I’m clinging to 2k as long as I can, but that probably won’t last much longer. I’m getting an LCD for the first time soon (probably) and XP has better support for it.

Still, I hear Vista is a nightmare, but I want to run DX10 games. Running a 2k/XP dual boot was extremely simple to set up - what about Vista/XP?

That’s discouraging to hear that Vista takes up a lot of hard drive space. There’s pretty much no reason an OS should. Even though I’m going to have at least 750gb of space, only 74 of that will be on the raptor. I want to stick the OS on that, but if it’s that big it may not be practical.

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When Vista came out I decided that’s when I would make my break from MS. I supported MS products for years as a freelance tech. I just decided I would not upgrade my skills to support Vista. I now have a Mac and am much happier for it. It works better than XP ever did.

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You gonna have to change your handle to applewas?

Or maybe msused-to-be?

Waitaminute…msWAS?

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Vista is not XP, it does things differently, get over it, move on, its a different OS. The only thing I dislike about vista is that it has more respect for XP security features than XP does for its own, making it more tedious for extracting backups from hard drives with messed up XP installs. Otherwise…no problems…more overhead, but thats expected.