You call him Deputy Grimes, lady!
I just did the subtitles for this episode. This is his whole spiel:
That’s right. You heard me, bitch!
You got a problem?
Bring it on if you’re man enough,
Or take it up the chain
if you’re a pussy.
You heard me, you pussy-ass
noncom bitch. You ain’t deaf.
Take it up the damn chain of command
or you can kiss my lily-white ass.
(LAUGHS) That’s right.
That’s what I said. You heard me!
And then this idiot, he takes
a swing, you know, and well…
(LAUGHING HYSTERICALLY)
You should’ve seen
the look on his face
when I punched out his front teeth.
(LAUGHS) Yeah, five of 'em!
Pow! Pow! Just like that.
Oh my God.
16 months in the stockade…
Oh, that’s what them teeth cost me.
(SIGHS) That was…
That was hard time,
But by god, it was worth
every minute of it
just to see that prick
spit his teeth out on the ground.
(CHUCKLES)
Yes sir, worth every minute.
Mmm.
(Then he looks down, notices his arm and remembers where he is).
Oh no. No no!
No no! No no!
God! God! No no!
(GRUNTS) God, God!
Jesus! No no, merciful Christ!
No no. No no. God, help me!
God! God!
Jesus, please! Jesus, please.
Help me! Come on now!
Help me. (CRIES)
(Then the zombies arrive).
No no!
Oh, no no.
Shh shh shh shh shh.
(CRYING) Oh, Jesus, Jesus!
(WEEPS)
No no no no no no.
Please. I didn’t behave, I know.
I know I’m being punished.
I know. I…
Oh, I deserve it!
I deserve it! I’ve been bad!
Help me now. Show me the way.
Go on, tell me what to do.
Tell me. Tell me. (WEEPS)
God! God!
That’s OK.
Never you mind, silly Christ boy!
I ain’t begged you before.
I ain’t gonna start begging now.
I ain’t gonna beg you now!
Don’t you worry about me
begging you ever!
I’ll never beg you!
I ain’t gonna beg you!
I never begged you before.
Oh shit.
No!
He’s on a drug comedown, he’s dehydrated, starving and terrified, and he wasn’t exactly smart to begin with - he’s gone completely out of his tiny little mind. I find it believable that he’d decide to chop his own hand off, stupid as that is.
I agree. I think he essentially lied, but to protect her, not to get in her pants. He had to write Rick off.
I think that she probably would have told Rick, but when? He arrives, and the very next morning he’s leaving again. Hard to drop that bombshell in there.
As for the hacksaw, I think it would have been a lot more dramatic to show that he couldn’t reach the hacksaw, but instead a pair of utility scissors or something that cuts flesh but not metal, thus forcing him to make the terrible decision to take his hand.
That’s a good idea. I thought it was pretty cheesy the way they ended on the bloody handcuff. It would have been more compelling to watch Merle go through everything, showing us why it was necessary.
In fact, I think one of the flaws in this show is they’re rushing. It makes sense that they want to establish things in their very short first season, but it really would be nice to see a flashback of the fall of civilization, an account of what happened at the hospital, the development of things between Lori and Shane, and stuff like Merle’s struggle on the roof. Hopefully the second season will be more leisurely. After all, that’s what the comics were made for - to tell a zombie story without the time pressure of a 2 hour movie.
As I record these but haven’t watched them (and I haven’t read the comics)…
Is this show worth watching? I shall attempt to avert my eyes from spoilers as a I look for an answer.
-Joe
There aren’t any spoilers in the polls of the threads for this show, if you were avoiding them. It’s just a count of how many people are enjoying each episode, which should give you your answer.
Also keep in mind that the producers didn’t know whether they’d even get a second season, so rushing fhrough some aspects of the story may have been a necessity in order to tell a complete story in this short season. I’m with you on hoping season 2 can take the time to flesh out its storylines more.
He saw a pair of men’s shoes at the end of the bed, so he knows something is up.
As for the Reiver/Zombie question, the Reivers are most definitely not the walking dead. They are very much alive, so not zombies by definition. They simply had a bad reaction to the peace drug.
I think those shoes were part of the pile of clothes he was given to wear while his uniform was being washed and dried. I don’t think those were supposed to be “men’s shoes suspicious things are going on!”
You may very well be right.
It made the most sense in terms of the scene. He wakes up and sees a pile of men’s clothes - jeans, white t-shirt, shoes. In the very next scene, he’s wearing a white t-shirt and jeans (didn’t see the shoes), and finds the wife of the wife-beater ironing his uniform. He thanks her for washing his clothes.
Didn’t see his feet in that scene, but it seems to fit.
This. How could a zombie show not kick ass? I’m rapidly losing interest. I don’t care about any of these characters. Bring back the father and son from the 1st episode. I liked them.
Just so you know, all of the episodes are available for free on Shaw Video on Demand. I watched Tell it to the Frogs last night.
That reminds me- did anyone see the WD motion comic? I just happened to notice it on Comcast’s on demand. It’s pretty short, covering only about half the first issue (up to the point where Rick gets whacked with the shovel), but Phil LaMarr plays Rick! Don’t know if there will be any more installments.
It’s on YouTube HERE.
Good idea! I keep forgetting about things like that.
That’s pretty awesome. Any chance they will do more?
How would you portray a non-generic racist or a non-generic wifebeater? If the the racist was a flamboyantly gay man with elton john sunglasses would that be a more real character because he doesn’t adhere to a stereotype?
There are lots of real people that are like the racist. Or that wifebeater. How would the writers present people like that as part of their story and not have the audience react with “omg what a stereotype”? Do you believe that stereotypes are always false and no one actually fits them?
I mean, what, after the racist on the rooftop calls the other guy a nigger, is he supposed to then remind the group about how he spent the pre-zombie period feeding orphans just to show what a complex, nuanced character he is?
Lots of very real people aren’t much more complex than what we’ve seen of those characters. Not every person is that interesting. And even if they were - even if the racist did indeed spend his time feeding orphans - how would we know that from our brief interaction with him? We only saw how he was acting at that moment, and it’s entirely plausible that there are lots of people who would act just like that.
And the wife beater - a guy who’s a controlling dick in the first place, and now the rules of civilization have broken down and people rely on him? Lots of dicks would react like that in that situation.
It’s actually unrealistic to think that every character should be some nuanced, flawed but interesting person with hidden qualities to offset the flaws, because that sure as hell isn’t how all actual people are.
Actually, pretty much all the racists and wifebeaters I’ve known have been flawed but interesting people with hidden (or not so hidden) qualities to hide the flaws. That’s how they get away with it.
And do they not have 3 minute periods where all you see in them is the racist or wifebeating asshole, or do they always convey their nuanced personality at all times?
Sure, but even then I’m aware that they do have their plus points too. It’s not asking much of a TV programme to expect them to show more than one side to their characters - like having the wifebeater walk onscreen carrying something he’s caught (so he’s at least an effective provider - important in the Walking Dead scenario), say something amusing (being funny lets you get away with a lot) or have him ruffle his son’s hair or something.
I actually think they have managed this with the racist brothers; Daryl is fond of his brother and is an effective hunter, and Merle - well, actually, with him I think it’s just that he’s a very good actor. Every single thing he’s done and said has been unpleasant, but he’s still a compelling character.