"The Walking Dead"; Episode 4:1 tonight

Didn’t see a thread, so if you don’t have your DVR set… what are you waiting for?

Not as good as Breaking Bad (what is?), but still a solid show.

I’m stoked! The Zombies are back!

Saw a review this morning for the first two eps. Very little character development and lots more gore; as in excessive gore. While some may applaud that, it may spell the end for this viewer. AMC has fired every producer so far and I think they’re running out of people with ideas.

They have a solid formula, just dont screw it up: make good, complex, 3 dimensional characters and then kill them.

When I first heard of this series, I assumed the title referred to the never-called-that zombies.

After the first season, I felt the title applied more accurately to the living characters (and not in a demeaning way; they truly were “walking dead” through that post apocalypse).

Then I thought it applied to the writers and showrunners.

Now I conclude it applies to the remaining audience.

I was going to respond with the ol’ " hey i resemble that remark" but instead ill go with " actually we’re sitting, tyvm." :wink:

America is full of the Sitting Dead. No new news there, as John Mellencamp said.

I really am frustrated enough with this show that I may nor may not bother with this season. For all the budget issues, directorial changes and understanding that the show is about how people react to disaster - the details being window dressing - I think they could have taken the show down exactly the same road thematically, had just as many crises, allowed just as many fuckups and mistakes on the part of the survivors… without making most of the cast stupider than the walker/biter/moaner/greenies.

Yes, the most experienced and intelligent person could make bad choices. Accidents happen. Wishful thinking is hard to get past. But you do accumulate heavier weapons, better vehicles, food and fuel stores and the like, instead of making a near-lethal run to the nearest abandoned store in a Kia econobox every time you run out of cereal, armed with an old .38 Special.

Hooray, love love LOVE this show, can’t wait.

Whilst series 3 saw the human vs human conflict as the main driver I am lead to understand that this season it’s going to be about zombies again! woohoo!!!

Hmm, Herschel’s walking pretty good for a guy with one leg.

Dead pig, dead kid - what contagious disease are we dealing with here? My husband says swine flu - I say Swine Flu of DEATH!

They’re growing food, they’re husbanding animals, they’re having organized sorties out for supplies, they’re killing walkers on the fence - all good. A disease that kills you fairly quickly inside the walls - less good.

What was up with the woman in the woods? She was just a human being who hadn’t showered in months? And why did Rick leave the thing groaning and writhing in the bag behind?

ETA: Speculation from “Talking Dead” - airborne virus! Oh noes!

And zombies falling from the skies - definitely bad.

A worthwhile premier.

So, we seeing some new mutation of the virus? We repeatedly saw walkers with the goopy-eye look that Hipster Glasses ended up with. Wonder if he wound up messing up the water supply before dying.

Well at least the creepy Irishwoman turned out to just be a creepy Irishwoman and not some new kind of zombie. Seriously she was really dirty and looked like a zombie. Yes she was talking, but the producers did say they found a way to make the zombies more threatening this season (it looks like they’re setting up a more contagious mutation of the virus). Schoolmistress Carol was pretty cool. I liked Rick telling Carl not to name the livestock followed by Carl telling the girls not to name the walkers, but isn’t naming livestock normal for farmers? I kept thinking Hershel probably named them & Carl just picked up on that. Speaking of Carl did they recast him, or did the actor have a growth spurt? :confused:

We don’t have to spoiler things, do we? I think this thread is for people who have watched the show.

Anyway, they are living in a prison - are they still locking themselves in to sleep, or not? It doesn’t look like they are, but they’re gonna wish they had.

I liked Carol reading to the kids/teaching them to read and also teaching them how to kill. They need both - they still need to learn how to read to find stuff on the shelves while foraging, and they also need to learn that walkers are not pets (I liked Carl getting all hard-assed with the other kids about that). I didn’t understand why Carol didn’t want Carl to tell his dad - is she not supposed to be teaching the kids about walkers?

Which is strange because being able to sleep in a locked cell every night is one of the main advantages to living in a prison. Anyone else notice the apparent lack of old people in the background; IIRC there were a lot of them getting off the bus in the season 3 finale. I wonder if Dr Stevens has survived; it’d sure take a lot of the burden off Hershel (& let him concentrate on farming).

That’s what it seemed like; which of course makes no sense whatsoever. Not exposing children to stuff like that is thinking from a dead era. Plus I don’t think Rick’s their leader anymore. Maybe it had to do with excusing the nerd? Or not reporting him being sick? It would certainly behove them to have very strict quarantine procedures for anyone who’s sick or injured (as the last scene demonstrates).

Nice to see me & Hardwick were on the same page re the Irishwoman.

Tyreese had better get his affairs in order, there’s a new black male in town (and a fellow The Wire alum, even) and the show’s rules have been clear: only one black male at a time.

That is strange, as I recall, it was Lori who opposed teaching Carl to shoot back in season 2, but Rick ultimately gave it the go-ahead. So, if he’s forbidden teaching similar skills to these kids, it’d be nice if there was a logical reason.

All in all, a solid episode. No real surprise there, over the run of the series the premiere episodes have been the best ones. It’s when the show must move from establishing the status quo to introducing and carrying out some sort of narrative arc that it falls apart.

Good point - that does seem to be the rule. I think black medic is the one who’s going to bite it, though (no pun intended) - he’s looking a bit peaked already.

t-daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwwwwwwggggggggggg!!!

He now has prosthetic leg. Easier on the FX people.