I think these Z’s operate on the decay principle. They start out somewhat fast if uncoordinated, and as they rot they slow until they can not function any longer. The fact that the fairly fresh ones at the FEMA camp seem to be able to be distracted by motion, lights, and sound unrelated to food seems to support this. Fresher Z’s are more aggressive and complex in their behaviour than ones that are farther gone; they tend to lay around more until they are no longer walkers.
I like that - best explanation yet why some of the bodies in the cars have not been ‘active’.
Good for you. Enjoy the show your way in the other thread, and let people who don’t want spoilers (or “teasers”) keep this thread free of them.
I mean, unless part of what you enjoy about the show is pissing that second group off.
you’ll note that I have not posted anything spoilerish or teaserish in any thread - so I’ll participate where I choose - I think trying to maintain a seperate thread is a mistake and will lead to the demise of both.
We are in a zombie war folks - we are stronger together than apart.
If I have to walk on eggshells trying to accurately remember at all times what was in the books which I read years ago versus what was in the show, then your killing my participation in the threads. I’m enjoying the show, but I don’t pay close enough attention to either medium to ensure I always keep them separated in my head, especially if posting more than 15 minutes after the end of the show.
I bet I guessed it in my previous post, whatever is going on. I haven’t read spoilers, but I figure either they’re going to be secretly keeping humans for something nefarious - slavery or food - or they’re keeping zombies for something probably well intentioned but foolish - some sort of homebrew cure or something. Maybe people they know that they can’t bring themselves to kill. What else could it be?
Even if I couldn’t figure out what it was, it’s just annoying to have someone tapping you on the shoulder saying “wait till they get to the barn, this is gonna be awesome, I can’t wait!” - it ruins my enjoyment of the show to have these things keep popping into my head while I’m watching the show. And I’m definitely not alone.
It’s not “quite easy to avoid” about a third of the posts in these threads. I can avoid clicking the spoiler boxes, but I either then skip posts entirely, or I just try to read around the spoiler boxes, and often the posts don’t make any sense without that information. And then people will often respond to the points made in those posts, without revealing or referencing the spoiler themselves but not also quoting the spoiler, and then, because I skipped the information the person is responding to, I’m wondering wtf they’re talking about.
It’s tiring. The majority of people who read these threads have only seen the TV show. The majority of people are also spoiler-averse. Even if nothing has been spoiled (and the things that hint, without directly saying what will happen, have similar enjoyment-killing effects as spoilers), it’s tiring trying to read a thread going through a minefield of people having a seperate discussion of things you don’t want to know.
OR! OR!!! Just maybe, instead of not reading threads on the SDMB until years later when the show is complete, we could, you know, seperate the discussion between the people talking about the things most people don’t know and don’t want to discuss and the people wanting to avoid that. No, your solution of having everyone avoid these threads for years is obviously much better.
Yes, this game of thrones thread which is exactly what I’m proposing we do, only got 1,370 posts. Totally killed the discussion.
How hard can it be to remember what happened so far in the TV show? Are you suggesting that the burden of asking you to remember what it is you’re talking about is the greater burden than having people either avoid these threads for years or have their enjoyment ruined?
I forgot to add - telling everyone that you don’t mind spoilers, so they need to stfu and not mind spoilers themselves, but then trying to appeal to a sense of solidarity is obnoxious.
I don’t have perfect recall. So while I know approximately how far the show has proceeded versus the comics, I may forget what plot points come from which source up until that point. And I might forget just what has been revealed so far in the current plot point. I’m not going to jump seasons ahead, but I may conflate some points in the current arc.
If people are going to get all butthurt because I’m not anal retentive about keeping the media separate, then it isn’t worth the effort.
I was spoiled for the barn because I’m subscribed to the thread, and there are no spoiler boxes in the e-mails. Everything’s wide open in the e-mails.
I get that it’s a hassle to post in two threads if you have something to say about the show and something to say about the books, but we did it for Game of Thrones and it worked well.
I’d say bite me - but in zombieland, thats not a good idea.
where did I say that others need to stfu and not mind spoilers? I stated my opinion and that I felt some are being overly sensitive.
I’d prefer we not try to split the threads - except for this argument, there really isn’t that much content in them anyway at this point.
I don’t think anyone is going to blame you for a minor slipup now and then. Do you not get that there are people who are very deliberately having an essentially entirely different discussion because they are willfully talking about the stuff that the majority of the people in this thread don’t know and don’t want to know?
The idea that it isn’t “worth the effort” to you to put in 2 seconds of thought about whether what you’re going to say is or isn’t a spoiler (and if you’re not sure, you can always just post it to the spoiler discussion), and that’s a worse injustice than people having to avoid about a third of the discussion in these threads and be confused by more than that, is pretty far fetched.
The majority of the people reading this thread do not know, nor do they want to know, the information discussed by the minority. It’s a burden on them to have to read about it. Seperating the discussion out, as was very successful in a previous situation that was identical to this one, improves both discussions. People who don’t want to be spoiled don’t have to make an effort not to be, there aren’t fights about it, and the people who want to discuss knowledge from the books can do it worry-free and spoiler box free in the other thread.
Your entire point here is “I don’t mind spoilers, so no one else should mind either, so we should all act as if their wishes don’t matter” - I don’t know how you don’t even see the contradiction in your first two lines.
It’s not worth the effort to me. I’ll just not post. The threads will end up the same half-dozen people posting every week with nothing new or different being brought to the table, and I’ll end up not discussing the show with anyone (as I don’t visit other MBs and don’t know anyone else watching).
You’re reading alot into my posts - let me simplify it for you…
a.) I don’t mind spoilers in 99% of the cases -
b.) so far, no actual spoilers for the TV show have been posted
c.) I have been enjoying the “this is different than the graphic novel here” types of discussion that has been ongoing.
d.) I do not believe there will be enough interest or content to keep two seperate threads alive on this
I have not stated that others should STFU or that we shouldn’t use spoiler boxes for the GN content/speculation - I have tried to be a little humourous and maybe the allergy meds are clouding what I htink is cute or not -
and thats the last I will post on this - as the ‘discussion’ about spoilers or not is more tiresome than avoiding a few ‘potential’ spoilers.
You are right. It’s a dildo emporium, powered by zombies on a treadmill.
And just so everyone knows, if anyone is reading on their phones (as I am), the spoiler boxes do no good. It just has the hash tag and are completely open to be seen… no clicking necessary at all.
Now I won’t stop reading because of that, no matter what we decide, but it is slightly disappointing to have to read something you were unprepared for.
My .02 cents.
I am one who has read the comics and posted some spoiler boxes earlier in this thread. (I didn’t know that the spoiler boxes don’t work on mobile phones and in e-mails.)
I don’t like being unintentionally spoiled myself, and I will agree to not discuss the books anymore in the TV show-only threads. Not a big deal, really.
This used to be a good thread. Now that the spoiler war is being waged that’s all we are seeing, and the thread is turned to crap. Nobody will shut up about it and let the issue rest, everyone wants to have the last word with THEIR opinion.
People, could we please just give it a rest and leave this other stuff out?
OK, but only if I am allowed to get the last word.
I’m trying to come up with a useful compromise that serves the most people. How in the world is that trying to get in the last word?
This is going to come up again and again as people hint at spoilers and other people aren’t happy with that and we get into bickering about what constitutes a spoiler. With the game of thrones stuff, the content of both threads improved once we seperated out the discussion, so why not learn from it and do that here?
Had no clue about this and that is enough (and much more convincing than people griping one way or another) to have me say, “sorry if I spoiled anything for anyone. It was completely unintentional.”
Just to add some gasoline to the fire, didn’t the barn get either mentioned or a good long looking at in a shot for what is upcoming in the season?
That is why someone asked about it, and it is in the show.
I would have PMed my response if I had known about the e-mail no spoiler box thing, but it was “spoilered” or hinted at by the show.
Did anyone else see that, I figured that was why the question was asked in the first place.
Maybe I am completely making that up, dunno.