I guess I thought of Mexico because of Lori talking about winter coming and “it could be a hard one.” and all that. It was a warm place they could get to, without a ship.
Or drive south for half a day and go to Florida. 
Looking at a map, aren’t there islands they could get to off the coast of South Carolina or Florida that might work as a warm, defensible place?
Insanity. First time a hurricane hits and a storm surge washes across one of those barrier islands you are all dead.
Of course, they could go to Lake Lanier Islands, but then will the dam keep holding the lake during a zombie apocalypse, or will it be breached at some point?
So glad to see Dale dead. I hated him so much that when he put the gun to his forehead I wanted Andrea to break it up and say “No, suicide is always wrong. I’m saving you like you saved me, Dale.” Suffer you moralistic piece of shit.
Randall has to die, sooner rather than later. It doesn’t matter if he’s the nicest guy in the world who went with the first group he came across. He still has to die.
Depends on the gun, I’ve had two 1911 type pistols, supposedly a notoriously choosy design, that would feed everything just fine, FMJ 230 grain round nose (what it was designed for), any number of Speer Gold Dot hollowpoints, heck, even my 200 grain hard-cast lead semi-wadcutter solid handloads, and the 200Gn LSWC is infamous for misfeeds in a 1911 pattern pistol
It depends on the gun, every one is different, my current Sig Sauer 1911 eats them just fine, but who knows, another Sig 1911 might not, guns are wierd like that…
Three commnents/questions:
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My wife made the comment that Carl picking up the gun from the back of the motorcycle was completely implausible. “They live in the South. His dad is a police officer. You don’t think he was told from a very early age that if he EVER picked up a gun without adult supervision, he’d get the shit beaten out of him?” Thoughts?
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So Rick couldn’t shoot the kid because Carl wanted him to? God forbid in this post apocalyptic zombie filled hellhole, a kid grows up hard. Sorry Rick. But Carl’s childhood ended around the time he saw his first disembowlment. Shoot the prisoner already.
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OK, so Rick doesn’t shoot the prisoner. There’s no way, NO WAY, that Shane just goes along with Rick’s change of heart, silently walking him off-screen like he did. Shane’s going to say “We took a vote. We made a decision. If you can’t end this, I will,” as he pulls out his gun to do the deed.
There’s a next of fallacies in there: generalizations about southerners, generalizations about corporal punishment. And in any case, you don’t think that southern kids ever disobey their parents? That never happens?
Yeah, it’s a bit of a generalization. Especially because Rick’s family doesn’t seem like the type to employ corporal punishment. But still, the question stands. Rick works with guns and generally seems to be responsible. It would be reasonable to assume that he’d made it very very clear to his kid what was and wasn’t proper when you’re around firearms.
Carl’s adventure in the woods was believable to me, adolescent kids will misbehave and do stupid stuff. But what I do find fault in is Rick & Lori’s cavalier attitude to his wandering around. No one is watching this kid? Not even after the other adolescent in your group already disappeared into the woods and got zombie-ized?
No. No, it doesn’t.
This was an episode in which Carl was disobeying his elders and acting stupid left and right. In that context, it’s not reasonable to be hung up on this question.
Speaking as a Southerner, I wouldn’t have been beaten if I picked up a gun without adult supervision – I had my own gun at that point. I would have been beaten for losing it/ruining it/using it inappropiately. “It’s a tool, not a toy!” was my grandpa’s mantra.
By that age, I had been thoroughly trained in firearm safety. I had a .22 rifle and a .410 shotgun, and was also allowed to use dad’s 20-gauge shotgun without direct supervision. No handguns, though. My parents didn’t keep handguns around, and I don’t think they would have approved of me handling one.
Well, that kind of bugs me. The zombies are supposed to be the product of a viral infection, which means that the zombies should pretty much be limited to the laws of the natural world. In Romero’s zombie universe, nobody really knows why the dead have risen, it just seems that the cosmos have somehow gone off the rails. But in the TWD universe, the zombies will need a regular supply of food to avoid starving to death, and with their immune systems no longer functioning they’d rot until they could no longer walk. If they froze, their cells would rupture, and they’d die. (These problems bothered me about World War Z, too.) That would set some serious limits as to how long the zombie apocalypse could go on. I can’t see it lasting more than a few weeks or a couple of months. At the end of the series will there be an “All Clear” or something?
Yeah, it doesn’t pay to think too much about how zombies function.
The human drama is in the difficultly of adjusting to new circumstances. If Rick, particularly, just went along with everything without any kind of moral struggle, what’s the point of the story?
Considering the moral/ethical clarity that many seem to think surrounds the question of whether someone should be killed simply because he might pose a threat to the group, I hope Lori’s baby is born one leg short just to see how everybody propose they get rid of it since it will eventually just slow them down.
They can make new zombies, but it looks like there aren’t many candidates.
Into the zombie pit!
Or heck, how, by just being a baby and making noise it could endanger them.
This was a plot point in Defiance, a film about Belarussian Jews hiding in the forests during the Nazi occupation. The group made a rule: no pregnancies for the duration. However, one of the women got pregnant via rape and gave birth. The baby’s cries became a problem.
Yep. We have to remember that this is fiction, so there has to be drama. Maybe there are writers out there who could have the characters behave logically and still keep us interested, but they’re not writing for this show.