Why do people think this is the next day from Dale’s death? They had the burial, and showed a work party out repairing fence and offing zombies.
It hasn’t been a long time (they’d not wait a week to deal with Randal), but it could be two days easily, giving Carl - who is uncageable, apparently - an extra day to get the gun.
On the battle battle of Herschel’s farm - I like Daryl and Glen being behind the stagger. I was thinking today that, giving the general obliviousness of zombies, that you could cause a lot of damage with a melee weapon, just walking up behind them and picking them off.
Honestly, I would drop it if folks like you would just quit trying to explain it away with fanwankery. Otis saying something to Rick doesn’t put it in Dale’s (or Darryl’s) head. This was beat to death in the last thread, where it was pretty much resolved that we just have to assume that Dale (and Darryl) somehow learns that Otis took Rick’s gun. It has dick to do with Hershel’s (no “c”) rule. It’s a good example of loose-ass shitty writing, so yes, it’s gonna come up in subsequent discussions of loose-ass shitty writing.
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It’s a TV show. Time is critical; they have to leave things out.If they spent fifteen seconds of Lori telling Carl not to wander off, and fifteen seconds showing him climbing out a window, thirty seconds recovering the pistol, they’ve lost a minute of the fight between Rick and Shayne. We just have to figure some stuff out all by ourselves
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Or you cut a thirty seconds of Shane seething and thirty seconds of Lori bitching at Andrea for not washing dishes.
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Seriously, why DO you watch this show? I mean, we all complain about bits and pieces of it here and there, but we are all riveted because we actually like the damn thing because there’s never been anything on TV quite like it.
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I’m glad someone finally asked me . . . a page ago. The answer hasn’t changed. It should be pretty clear I have been pulled in or I wouldn’t know so much and care so much about what’s happened. If you guys just wanted this to be a circle jerk to this show, you should titled the thread “The Talking Dead”
I’m starting to think the next episode could open in the prison yard with Rick holding a vial that said, Zombism Cure" (and not in an artistic flash-forward way) and half you guys wouldn’t bat an eye. “Stuff happens off-screen. Don’t expect them to spoon feed you every detail.”
I don’t mean to be rude here but you’ve done nothing while participating in these threads but rip the show apart. I can’t help but wonder if your enjoyment is more tied to being overly critical rather than the content of the show itself.
Its just a TV show. Yes it could be better and it isn’t perfect. Yet its enjoyable given its suspension of disbelief.
Like I previously wrote, gushing about what I liked doesn’t interest me – it makes me think of that Chris Farley talk-show bit on SNL when he’d have on an actor as his guest and he would just run through his favorite lines from the guy’s movies and say, “yeah, that was cool.” Additionally, as I also wrote, I’m hoping I missed something (this is more true of the Dale-Shane subplot). And, again, I am bothered by this show’s frustrated potential.
For the record, I liked the last episode, quite a bit. The final scene was awesome. I also liked the opening. I liked the first ep of the season, whole thing. I liked the bar scene. I’ve rewatched all of season one six times.
Are you kidding? Those two would pop up in every episode for a line or two, and I (we?) got more and more pissed as the season progressed. When we finally got to their -centric episode, and they died in a delightfully gruesome way, I laughed and clapped. Ergo, best episode evah!
I’m going to miss Shane a little bit. I LOVED the character but the actor that played him was annoying. Why did he always dart his eyes around while holding his mouth halfway open? Almost as bad as Perpetually Surprised Dale.
That said, I’m now worried for Darryl. Lots of big shows are killing off popular characters almost as if to spit in the faces of the fans. It’s considered high art or something(I’m looking at you Boardwalk Empire!).
I want to give props to the poster that coined “The Battle of Hershel’s Farm”.
It sounds like some of those tiny battles fought during the French and Indian War or something.
I am finding it harder and harder to like Rick, to be honest. Darryl waves away Rick’s apology for letting Darryl kill Dale with “No reason you need to do all the heavy lifting”. What heavy lifting??? This man cannot make one hard decision if he has more than 3 seconds to think about it. Couldn’t kill Randall when they found him. Couldn’t kill Randall after they dropped him off. Couldn’t kill Randall in the barn. Couldn’t kill Dale. Yes, he killed Shane, but it was an immediacy borne out of self-defense. I am so tired of his waffling and his indecision.
But what really bothered me this episode was his talk with Carl about Dale. Instead of finding something useful out of the tragedy, and telling Carl, “Don’t carry the guilt; carry the knowledge that every action will have a consequence. Dale would want you to remember that,” we get, “It’s not your fault”. What?? Actually, Rick, it kinda is. And it was a great opportunity for Carl to realize the severity of decisions he makes and that they all make. Nope, Rick’s parental wisdom consisted of, “we’re all gonna die and the best we can do is stay one step ahead of it.”
I find it interesting that the most compelling, sensible character wasn’t even in the books. And now I’ve cursed Darryl.
I think it was Zachary Levi on “The Talking Dead” who said something about how when a guy is crazy about a woman like that, he thinks he has a chance with her again if she even looks at him. I’d like to think that Lori was just trying to mend fences, but I don’t think she’s a very nice person, and I’m not sure about what she was trying to do. That makes me feel a little sorry for Shane - he might still be alive if he hadn’t messed around with her.
Agreed. I was also thinking that it kind of was Carl’s fault that Dale died - if they had gone and killed that Walker that Carl discovered, Dale would probably still be alive. I guess they didn’t need to load Carl up with more guilt, but I agree that this was a good lesson for him to learn, that actions have consequences and you have no room for screw-ups in the world they live in now.
Randall revealed himself by revealing to Shane his enthusiasm about the other group. Before, Randall had been pretending that he was only with them reluctantly, and that he was not an active participant in the bad things they were doing. Shane got him to drop that act, and thereby reveal himself as a threat.
The irony is that “evil” Shane is the one who actually did the thing that made the group safer, by eliminating Randall as a threat. Meanwhile, “good” Rick was planning to release Randall back into the wild, which could have produced a disastrous result.
Shane was usually right. Impulsive, bad tact, yes, but usually right.
We comment on all these threads about how they’re all idiots that deserve to die for their stupid behavior, but Shane seems to recognize this and try to aggressively stamp out the stupid decisions, and he’s portrayed as the bad guy. I never bought it. He’s a guy who’s frustrated that he’s no longer in charge and people are making increasingly poor decisions that are going to get people killed.
I was actually hoping Shane would be vindicated by having the kid let go, find his group, and bring them back. Or something else that proved him right. He doesn’t deserve to go down as a bad guy.
I haven’t noticed until just now that I agree with you, for the most part. It’s a kill-or-be-killed world, and Shane understood that in order to survive you had to adapt to the way things are and let go of how they were.
Regardless, Shane was the character that everyone loved to hate. A show needs that. I also don’t agree with how he turned on his best friend, all over a woman. A conniving woman, but still. And he was an ass. And in defense of Rick, if you don’t have any humanity left then what’s the point?
But I’m still hung up on Dale, his death pissed me off. I liked him more than any other character.
Anyone that has read the comics know if there will be new additions to the group? I’m assuming there will have to be or else they’ll run out of characters. Are the comics worth reading? I’ve been thinking about starting them, but don’t want to spoil the show too much.
I LOVED the character but the actor that played him was annoying. Why did he always dart his eyes around while holding his mouth halfway open? Almost as bad as Perpetually Surprised Dale.