As an aside, we watched the very first episode of Walking Dead last night, and it was so very, very good. I don’t want to say that the later episodes are bad - they are, however, very, very different.
It is being sure that you will continue to live, as well as being polite to parents.
An older friend of mine once commented, “Nobody likes you f–king their daughter, no matter how many licenses you have.” 
Lighten up Francis. 
Although the tradition may have started at a time when women were the property of their father to be bartered, this is clearly 2013 and no longer the case. As I stated, and others indicated, it is about offering respect to her father not some archaic custom where he attempts to negotiate the best deal for his daughter’s hand nor does he hold any real authority to stop the wedding. It is a token gesture meant to acknowledge his role in her life as father and my soon-to-be role as her husband and a part of his family.
Oh, look over there! That man stood up at the dinner table when a woman arrived! And, and, and… that man, right there! Dear God, he held a door open for a woman! What’s next in this stunning display of evil and oppression? Giving up your seat on a bus to the pregnant woman too?!? Insulting customs one and all!! :rolleyes:
MeanJoe - Whose far more educated, intelligent, and well traveled fiancé finds such traditional acts as a sign of respect to others and does not attempt to tilt at windmills of the “male oppressors”. Or “That’s so sweet of you, thanks babe” as she likes to put it.
Jesus felt the same way…
Did anyone else take note of the script writing that had the last interaction between Daryl and Merle ending with Daryl getting sentimental and Merle basically rebuffing Daryl as soft for doing it.
I found that little bit to be well placed given the ending of the episode.
I thought the actual proposal scene being underplayed was actually really sweet and I liked it quite a bit, it fit.
The scene where Daryl runs into Michonne while tracking Merle is almost LOSTian in its absurdity. So he runs across the last person to see his brother, who may know where he went, and he decided “Oh hey, gotta run, don’t have 30 seconds to ask you where my brother is, too busy using my awesome tracking skills to track a car on pavement for several miles”
Wabbit twacks… Car twacks… Twain twacks…
so we have a married couple and a baby in the group, where there were neither before. am i being pessimistic or is that a really precarious setup by TV standards? 
Me too! And I feel the same way. I know that Kirkman’s whole deal is to explore what happens *after *the traditional zombie movie plot is played out, but it was an awful lot of fun watching the traditional zombie plot play out in Ep1!
As you say, it’ definitely a remnant of an intolerable patriarchal society where fathers were the owners of their daughters’ virginity, and they passed that valuable possession on to a suitable husband, who could then use his wife as an incubator for his children, safe in the knowledge that only his DNA had ever passed through her cervix. I don’t think most people who do it today are endorsing that system, but I also don’t think it’s wacky, “all sex is rape” straw feminism to find it distasteful, either.
(I also do really find it annoying when some dude practically breaks his neck to rush in front of me and hold open a door, because I’m a woman and can’t possibly do it myself. I think people should hold doors for people coming in right behind them, and able-bodied people should give up bus seats to people who might have trouble standing, regardless of respective genders.)
The way the sets looks it seems hard, but if it really had been the apocalypse for a while it would be trivial to track a moving car on asphalt - the roads should be covered with plant debris and such and since no other cars are using the road the tracks from the car you are looking for should be quite obvious. Of course the grass should be out of control too.
Oh, good point! I hadn’t thought about that.
They KNEW where he was going, the only place he could be taking Michonne is the meeting place the only place to go after releasing her is the meeting place. The tracking was only about getting to him first.
Okay, so in your view, Daryll is trying to catch up before Merle delivers Michonne to the meeting spot. Except he just ran across Michonne. She’s not with Merle. So now are we so sure that Merle is heading to that spot? Even if he is still heading there, she might be able to say “Oh he said he was going to stop by Meths R Us down the street before he went” I would think it might warrant 30 seconds of dialogue to see what’s up. Don’t try to defend it - it was pretty ridiculous.
Except when they are tearing out strips of flesh with their teeth. Really, all they should be able to do is gum everyone to death.
I certainly hope so. My husband figures that the crazy-fuck Governator will tell Daryl that Michonne killed Merle and let him turn so that Daryl will go after Michonne.
Except that his head was still on his shoulders.
Good episode, definitely better than most of Season 3.5. I felt like Merle’s change of heart was quite abrupt, though. Still, he went out in a blaze of glory, so that was neat.
I wish he had actually shot the Governor, though. We all knew that something was going to stop him once he had the Gov in his sights, it would have been refreshing for them to actually throw us a curve ball once in a while. Merle kills the Gov and Martinez takes over for the explosive finale? I think that could have worked.
Does anyone else think that the Gov’s “ambush” was poorly planned, as they were taken down by a single, one-armed man and the zombie pied piper car? If they were really planning on slaughtering Rick’s group at the exchange, I’d have thought that they would have had snipers somewhere, rather than just collecting all their brass in one, wide open spot.
They might be positioning Tyreese’s group to take down the Governor. I’m guessing that Ben’s death is going to change the father’s mind about how great Woodbury is, and I could see him patching things up with Tyreese as a result. I can also see the father taking down the Governor in a revenge-fueled suicide mission.
As for Andrea, I’m disappointed that we didn’t get an update about her this episode, but the episode was engaging enough that I didn’t notice until afterwards.
Thank St. Minow, only one episode to go and I never have to watch this farce again.
This was an episode that should have been among the best made, and it was merely ‘watchable.’ Which means it exceeds about ten other eps this season.
We did? Wow, I was absolutely floored by that unexpected interruption. Brilliant plot twist.
Not.
theR, thanks for the link! It kind of makes me want to take another go at the comics.
Or it could easily go the other way - this is a demonstration of how evil the prison group is, and he’ll be all in with the Woodbury crew.
My money is on Milton to be instrumental in taking down the Gov, with Rick or Michonne doing the actual killing. Presumably Tyreese and Sasha will switch sides at some point and one or both wind up with the prison group for next season. I’d love to see some development for Tyreese - he seems like a really cool guy, and I know comic fans love him. (If the writers kill Tyreese, people are going to start reporting the show to the Southern Poverty Law Center as a hate group!)
There’ve been married couples in the group before; Rick & Lori, Carol & Ed, and the Moraleses.