Rick and the Governor contemplate a peace treaty. Only 4 more episodes left this season.
Yak yak yak <yawn>
Wouldn’t surprise me if the guvna’ had a CCW weapon in addition to his hidden Glock
Okay, so who’s going to end up Purina Zombie Chow while Glenn and Maggie are getting it on…
Anyone feel up to making a song about going to war in The Walking Dead in the vein of the song from Duck Soup?
I really wish they would wash their clothes! Or find new ones to wear. Seriously. They don’t seem to have a problem finding gas for the cars, or ammo for the guns, yet all the clothes are gone?
Apparently nobody. I hope whatever the producers are saving their budget up for is worth it. And once again we got a reason why Merle should be kept locked up in a cell.
So how did the Governor know about the guns Rick got from Morgan?
So after a few early episodes with a lot of violent zombie shoot-em-ups, the show has reverted to the season 2 norm of talk, talk, talk, talk, token zombie kill, talk, talk, blah, blah, blah.
I give up. Season 2 wasn’t some anomalous moment where the abrupt change of show-runners put a monkey wrench in the works. This show really just plain sucks. Lots of one-dimensional characters with no motivation standing around uselessly, lots of contrived fake soul-searching, no action for 40 of the 45 minute run-time (minus commercials), a zombie shows up, gets shot or sliced in the head. Every so often, a character gets bumped off, only to be replaced with an equally useless, uninteresting character.
At the beginning of season 2, all the fans of the comic book began gushing “JUST WAIT TIL THEY GO INTO THE BARN!” and so I stuck it out to see the big revelation, and it was…zombies that were easily dispatched.
At the end of season 2, all the fans of the comic book were practically cumming online about “THEY INTRODUCED MICHONNE!” and I continued watching to see this fascinating new character…only she was just as boring as everybody else we’ve seen so far.
At the beginning of season 3, they introduced the Governor and his town…and it looked as if “Walking Dead” would take the tried & true formula of using a zombie apocalypse as an allegory for social issues (the Governor’s walled town of people trying to live as if nothing had changed provided they just keep the unending horde of [del]illegal immigrants[/del] zombies out of their perfect Americana Utopia.) But the show didn’t bother to do anything with that.
And now, it’s just more talk, talk, talk. This show is full of shit. It is poorly written, repetitive and a waste of time. After nearly three seasons, it is still floundering along and I just can’t put up with it anymore.
The only thing that would have made this episode not suck is if Rick shot the guv in his other eye at the very beginning of it.
While in some sense, I can understand Rick’s ‘questioning’ of the ‘right thing’ at the end of the episode - he already knows that the ‘guv’ wont keep his word - so why even debate it? He should have walked into the group - said - ‘we had this meeting, the guv gave us a choice to give up michone and all this stops - or not - I say not - our choices now are to fight or run - which is it?’ - but then - at this point - I want all these people to die and we start following some other group -
This was filler. It should have been a cool showdown between Rick & the Gov, but it wasn’t that interesting or insightful. No clever wordplay, no accidental reveals, no verbal feints or ripostes, just the Gov lying about backing off if they give up Michonne, and Rick knew it was a lie. The BS’ing among the seconds was BS. The Doc & Tea Guy could have had a good talk, but not so much. A little humanity might have come through there, but I think that was an accident. Darryl & the DH did the alpha-male dance and tried to one-up each other during the wandering walker scene. Even Merle’s strapping on the gear and getting ready to go kill the Gov was boring.
Filler. Well, they are burdened with that huge 16-episode schedule, so who could blame 'em? :rolleyes:
I agree that in a “real life” situation Rick probably would have just shot the Governor in the face, but I’ll let that pass for drama’s sake. Also, reasonably, Rick may have felt doing so could have set off an ambush that got Darryl and Hershel killed.
I thought the episode’s scenes where the various henchmen start to know each other and bond a little, while somewhat predictable, was still handled well. I hope it has implications for how the story arc plays out.
I personally don’t care for the decision to have a tune start playing at the end of each episode. This is three episodes in a row where that’s happened, and it comes across as a crass marketing tool so AMC can now sell The Walking Dead song CDs. Leave that kind of stuff to shows that used to appear on the WB.
So overall a “meh” episode for me, but I thought it did a better job setting up the chessboard than the other transitional episodes we’ve seen in the second half of season 3.
I’ve been trying to get someone to watch this damn show, and they saw last week’s and liked it. Good thing they didn’t watch tonight’s show!
I think it could have made an interesting plotline if the Governor really was telling the truth about backing off if Rick gave up Michonne. Then there could have actually been some dramatic tension about the group willingly sending someone off to die to save themselves, but nope. The Governor is again made to be just the standard eeeeevil villain and it’s all going to end with another lame gun battle. Which made this whole episode completely pointless as they are just back where they were last week.
Also, I really wish they would stop acting like Maggie was the victim of some utterly horrible terrible unforgivable thing. It’s like the writers want the characters to react as if she was raped, yet they didn’t have the balls to actually go there. Glen gets beat up, tortured and almost killed, but Maggie had to take her shirt off. Oh my stars! How awful!
I loved this episode.
Yeah, if Barnaggedon didn’t do it for you, what the fuck are you still watching for? That’s on you, not the show.
That was some pretty awful third-in-commanding by Glenn. It was what, two days ago that no one was on watch, allowing the Governor and his crew to approach the prison and shoot Axel in the head? Now, most of the group’s muscle is away at a meeting (one with a high likelihood of being a trap or diversion), and Glenn abandons watch for some sex. Why do I care if these careless morons die, again?
In better news, your namesake series returns in less than a month, so there’s that.
I thought that was the closest Rick has come to competent leadership this season. Reporting simply that negotiations had failed was the right move*. If he’d repeated the offer from the Governor that he knew was bullshit, then he risked the other people in his group seizing on it and insisting that he hand over Michonne to buy safety that Rick knows won’t last, trading one of their skilled fighters for nothing.
- Strictly speaking, the right move is to abandon the prison. They are fools for remaining there, and Carol and Herschel should belabor that point for as long as there is breath in their bodies.
Agreed, this was the central problem with this episode. Because Rick knows the Governor’s a lying, violent, asshole, no real negotiation was ever possible. As a result, there were no stakes to the conflict. A real missed opportunity.
I thought the Daryl & Martinez stuff was the strongest part of the episode, followed by the Herschel & Milton stuff. Since the leaders are so stiff-necked and deranged, the humanity comes from the supporting players. Seeing that each group’s Grizzled Killer, and their Voice of Reason, were pretty similar people with similar interests made the Woodbury/Prison war seem all the more senseless and wrong.
I don’t think it’s a marketing soon, so much as just a safe, cliche way to end an episode of an hour-long drama. Lost did it, Sons of Anarchy does it constantly, every ABC Family and Lifetime drama my girlfriend watches seems to do it. It’s evidence of unoriginal writing more than product placement, I think. Your call as to which is worse.
Yes, that would have been a major improvement, and paid off all the pipe this season has laid about Rick’s fanatical loyalty to “his” people, and his complete indifference to “not his” people. Michonne’s been around juuust long enough to be in the group, and trigger Rick’s tribalism, but juuuust short enough that he still seemed to be pondering the idea in the end with Herschel.
Hail hail Woodbury, land of the free and braaaaaave…
(With a hey nonny nonny and a hot cha cha!)
Well Milton seemed a bit put off by the Governor’s plan to slaughter Rick’s crew if/when they give up Michione. I mean really the only way the story is going to play out is some sort of civil war or internal strife in Woodbury. Between Andrea, Milton and the other henchmen, I see them introducing just enough doubt about half the town getting killed assaulting a fortress for no good reason.
Rick and the gov need to kill each other so we can get back to the zombie apocalypse. Maybe Andrea would get caught in the crossfire. Win-win!
I liked how the governor implied that Rick’s crew would slaughter theirs if it came to a fight.
You’re right. What Maggie endured surely wasn’t pleasant, but it was nothing compared to what they did to Glenn. Silly!