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Governor chases a dissenter who fled Woodbury. While the Governor is gone, a traitor tries to sabotage his upcoming plans.
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Hopefully the antepenultimate episode of the season will be better than the last two.
I call bullshit on the Governor’s magical Andrea finding powers.
Liked it. You see that Andrea is resourceful and a good fighter.(And a talker–she did bs her way over the wall.) I do also call bullshit on the Guv finding her like that. I still liked it
I’m sad Tyrese’s crew didn’t leave though.
Can’t take the Governor’s truck because that would be cheating.
Continue to be annoyed at the ever nerfing of the zombies. Really is there any reason to be afraid of them?
Though their secret power to appear en masse just feet away remains amusing. Since they can’t do anything useful once they take off their cloaks of invisibility it seems kind of useless.
Maybe she didn’t have the keys?
Loved her journey from Woodbury to the prison – wish it hadn’t ended so cartoonishly.
There’s no way Andrea doesn’t know how to hotwire a vehicle. She’s been wandering a post-apocalyptic hellscape for a year or more and hotwiring cars is something they teach you in the first semester.
So, who do y’all think set fire to the walkers? Milton seems a little too obvious, like a red herring. I don’t think it was Tyrees either; maybe the boy?
I think Milton set fire to the walkers. I agree it seemed too obvious, but there are apparently only so many people who know about the pit in the first place and would be able (I guess) to commandeer a truck.
I was thrown off by how it suddenly seemed like late fall. You could see the actor’s breath during several exchanges, and they’re all wearing heavy jackets. I’m a bit lost on how much time has passed since the group arrived at the prison. I was thinking they arrived in early summer and hadn’t been there for even a month, but I must be mistaken.
Biggest dislike with the episode was how it’s suddenly became a homage to Hostel, complete with the laying out of torture instruments and the antagonist’s casual whistling. Also have to call foul on the Governor overtaking Andrea right outside of the prison walls and then–I guess–dragging her back to wherever he left the truck. I don’t know, it just seems like he would have had to park the truck quite a ways a way to avoid detection. It’s a small nitpick though.
Really wish they’d abandon the five-minutes-until-the-end song thing they’ve been doing now.
I think it was Milton who fired up the Walkers.
I didn’t have any problem with the Governor finding her. She was on the road from Woodberry to the prison, he knew that and took the same road. What I didn’t like is when she thought it would be a good idea to head into a building. But the machine shop scene was good, I liked that part.
The other thing that bugged me is that she was walking. I’m surprised when I see anyone walking, ever. There’s abandoned cars everywhere. Just find one with keys and gas and take it.
I’m surprised they showed Rick. I figured they gave that whole crew the week off. I’m going to guess that scene, with him (and Andrea and the Governor) was filmed the week before. That way they could do it while they had Rick on location and cameras still at the prison.
She TRIED to BS her way over the wall. A decent attempt, I thought, but it didn’t work. In the end, she got over the wall because Tyreese & his sister didn’t want to shoot her.
I also call bullshit on the governor finding her like that (assuming you’re speaking of the “Surprise!” grab just outside the prison), but unlike you, I did not like it. It’s fair to say he knew where she was going, but that’s just a cheap cinematic crutch worthy only of 80’s teen slasher movies. And what the hell, he got away from those zombies and STILL caught her as well? Nothing stops this guy! “The Walking Dead”, starring Jason Voorhees as the Governator! Listen, and understand. That Governator is out there. It can’t be bargained with. It can’t be reasoned with. It doesn’t feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are dead.
I’m not digging this slow stroll through the zombipocalypse. Well, a figurative stroll, as there was a lot of running in this one. See Andrea. Run Andrea, run. Run run runrunrunrun. Hide Andrea. Hide hide hidehidehide. No, a little longer please, we have time to fill.
I’m questioning the shit they choose to show us instead of moving the story along at a faster pace. I feel like I’m watching what I’d imagine a soap-opera to be like, should I ever take the Amy Farrah Fowler brain-needle approach to happiness and then actually watch a soap-opera. No one ever really gets anywhere, it’s all about wasting airtime and teasing you through to the next commercial, next episode.
I understand that there’s something to be said for character development, but much of the problem is that they take the time to do it, and then don’t make the best use of it. The last episode where everyone was sitting around outside the big meeting, getting to know each other. I like the idea a lot, that was a juicy opportunity, but I don’t think they did it well at all. Andrea and The Governator’s relationship is another problem for me. It’s getting like Dave & Maddie, Sam & Diane - just tease, tease, tease. Shut up and kill each other already!
Why the hell is Andrea using a paper clip to kill zombies? Is ANY scratch to the brain enough to kill them then, because I don’t think that’s getting the penetration I would want in a zombie-killing weapon. I know her gun was taken, but why did she have the damn little thing at all?
I like Tyreese, and by extension, his sister. I think it’s just because they haven’t had time to make me tired of their bullshit yet.
Milton is the firebug. No surprise waiting for us in that reveal, unless they want to pull out a random extra and make them the culprit. If it’s not Tyreese, no one else we follow as a character makes sense, only Milton.
Crap. Hard to believe I look forward to this show. They started out the season at a good pace, but it slowed down a lot in recent episodes. Did they get a new showrunner again, or did the current showrunner learn he was a lame-duck mid-season? Think I remember reading that, but I don’t know if that’s from last year, or the year before. Seems to happen a lot.
The Governor being able to hone in on her wouldn’t have seemed quite so lame had they not shown us an establishing shot of a couple of different very large buildings there. Or if they had given us a shot of the Governor spotting Andrea slipping into the building. As edited, he drives up among the buildings and walks directly into the building (and the correct part of the large building) where Andrea has foolishly cornered herself.
It’s part of the ‘small world’ effect that is evident a lot on this show. With the entire planet to choose from these two groups of people have decided to risk life and limb to fight over this little piece of Georgia for no other logical reason than our viewing enjoyment.
I seem to remember he left the car running, or at least the lights on. When he started smashing windows, I was yelling (in my head) run to the car!
With all the space available, I often wonder why they can’t get into a “can’t we all just get along” mentality. In fact, I really don’t understand why the two of them are at each other’s throats. They’ve both set up reasonably secure areas, neither of them want to take of the other’s territory, they just want the other gone. They’re also far enough apart that they have to go out of their way to interact with each other. The fact that they even stumbled upon each other was a coincidence (Merle taking Maggie) and that the engaged each other was an even bigger coincidence (Michone finding the jail and explaining her connection with Andrea).
OTOH, we’ve met these two groups of survivors and I think we’re to assume this is how it is everywhere. Little groups of survivors and most of them violently defending any turf they’ve setup for themselves.
Thing is, I’m not sure why. There’s power in numbers here and it doesn’t take much for someone to turn to the dark side. I’m still not sure why the living don’t go out of their way to band together instead of pushing each other away. Take Woodberry for example. It was nice and secure, had good living quarters, people were doing well. If we ignore they governor for a minute, as they grew they could keep pushing out their walls. More people would find them and they could keep growing. If everyone did that, all over the country/world (however far this has spread), they would, in theory, eradicate the problem.
Ultimately a kind of meh episode for me. I enjoyed some of the cat and mouse between the Governor and Andrea, but it went on a bit too long.
I hated that he just happens upon her in the middle of a field. Sure, he knows the direction she’s heading in, but if he’s going to have to cover all the off-road, open ground between the two places, there should be no way he finds her. Of course, she’s not particularly bright about it, running down the middle of the road and then the middle of the open field.
My wife was also yelling repeatedly for her to take the governor’s truck, too. It appears to have occurred to everyone but Andrea herself.
What was the point of shattering all the glass, with a strong focus on the tiny bits of glass all over the floor? Nothing ever came of that. I was thinking of Hans Gruber in Die Hard, but it was all just apparently for the fun of showing some magical kind of window glass that shatters into little candy pieces all over the floor.
I also felt like everything that I did enjoy about the episode was undone in the second that the Governor appeared at the last moment to take Andrea down. So not only do the walker’s have a stealth mode that makes them undetectable until they pounce at you, but apparently some people do as well.
From the standpoint of advancing the plot, everything ended up in almost the same spot as the beginning, except that Andrea is now in the dentist’s chair. Meh.
I got the feeling that Tyrese was telling the Governor what he wanted to hear, and they actually plan to sneak away; Tyrese doesn’t seem stupid - I think he knows when he’s being flat-out lied to. But, since this is “The Walking Dead,” it’s also possible he’s just as stupid as the rest. 
I’m beginning to think that the writers have a concept of a certain shot (oooh! It’ll look really cool on screen if “x”), and kind of write enough filler to contrive a reason for that specific shot. It’s almost like they’re surprised there are more episodes.
said the chick that still watches, eagerly…
It was probably Milton but then he would have had to grow a set. Also, how would he get himself and a vehicle out of Woodbury (unusual for him to want to go outside) without the Governor’s lackeys making note of it? Ditto for Tyreese’s group. One possibility is Martinez. Didn’t he confess to Daryl that he lost his family to the zombies? He doesn’t seem like too bad a guy so he might be squeamish about letting them loose on non-combatants.
I think it depends on the person. If you keep your head (like Andrea) and there aren’t too many of them you should be okay. Panic and you’re toast.
He didn’t just find her. He found her three separate times and none of them were on the road. Once in the field, then at the building, and finally at the prison. The writing for this show makes a mockery of good writing. As someone else said, we also had a whole episode and it barely advanced the plot.
I can’t stop watching, mostly because it’s so clearly bad now. For a while I was waffling and hoping it would end up being really good.