No way the Gov survives that zombie attack. That’s what ruined the episode for me. I knew he wasn’t dead, because if he dies, they’ll show it for sure. So it’s almost as if the writers thought they were pulling one over on us.
Really getting bored with this Prison Vs. Woodbury thing - I want less dramatic silences and more zombie killings.
I was assuming they teleport rather than using invisibility. If they used invisibility, you’d still hear them.
Also, the opening scene that was a flashback drove me crazy because it made me realize that the two chained up zombies would make it impossible to hear other zombies approaching or people sneaking up on you.
When Andrea was running running running, my brain dredged up the mournful, whistling “Lassie” theme song. Other than that, I got nothin’ to add.
Just so I’m not totally negative, I did like the scenes with Tyreese. The tension between him and his former compatriot, plus the scenes with him interacting with the Woodbury soldiers and Governor.
No, there is not. When a woman in her 40s, armed only with a folding pocket knife, can jog over miles and miles of open country through the “Red Zone”, the zombies are officially a nuisance.
All he had to do at any point was just turn and briskly stroll away. There was only one zombie behind him, and they top out at about 1 mph. Unless you’re cornered, you can always just just and gambol away, and he wasn’t corner. The only reason he was trying to fight his way through them was to get to Andrea, and because he’s a fool; he’d be much better served by returning the way he’d come and trying to catch up to her outside.
Yes, we’re getting into an even trashier, lower-brow kind of horror now.
But, they seemingly allow you to camp out in the open with no shelter and be safe from zombie attacks, so there is a benefit.
Agreed, not a very efficient use of time in this episode. Andrea is off the fence about the Governor, but was too inept to evade him; Tyreese is suspicious; someone burned the captive zombie herd. That took 42 minutes?
Agreed, the Tyreese stuff was the best this episode had to offer. He and his sister seem to be the closest thing we have to good-hearted people making the best of awful situations; they are written in a fairly naturalistic way, don’t ham it up, and haven’t been made into morons by the needs of the plot…yet.
One perplexing thing about the zombies – a slight tap to the head destroys the brain, but evidently being burned in a gasoline fire has no effect? I dunno…
The gasoline didn’t burn long enough to destroy their brains. People can make fun of Andrea’s knife all they want, but the blade was a few inches long. That’s more then long enough to make it through their skulls.
Not just the finding, but taking Andrea back to Woodbury and getting her out of the truck and into the torture room without anyone seeing.
I think there are two audiences for this show: People who watch for the gore and violence and people who are interested in societal breakdown and survival. The gorehounds are getting what they want.
Especially when zombie skulls apparently have the consistency of jack-o-lanterns in December. A sharpened popsicle stick should be a sufficient weapon.
However, while skulls turn to near liquified mush, teeth apparently can still rip through leather and jeans as well as skin, and the bones of the limbs are not only strong enough to support the zombies own body weight, but can be ripped free and used as piercing weapons.
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There’s no way Andrea doesn’t know how to hotwire a vehicle. She’s been wandering a post-apocalyptic hellscape for a year or more and hotwiring cars is something they teach you in the first semester.
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But if she knew how to hotwire a car they’d have to explain why she passed by dozens of them en route to the Little Abandoned Zombie Factory in the Big Woods but chose to walk briskly instead.
Also weird how it chars their faces but their eyeballs are fine.
Seems unlikely. Who would have taught her? Michonne appeared to favor travel on foot with her zombie pets, and camping out in the open.
After a year, those cars would have flat batteries and stale (oxidized) gasoline.
For what it’s worth, on Talking Dead they talked about Milton being the firebug as if it was just a given. From how the Gov was talking to him about it, and some good nervous actiing by the guy playing him, I have to agree. No way it was anyone else.
I did expect Andrea to take the truck, but didn’t expect her to have to hotwire it. I just figured the Gov would’ve left the keys in it. People on TV seem to do that a lot, at least compared to real life. It is kinda weird that she didn’t even slash the tires or something if she wasn’t gonna take it.
Acting!
Yeah, I’d normally leave the keys in the truck/car - much easier than dropping them pulling them out of your pocket while strolling briskly away from zombies.
But why would she slash the tires? She obviously thought the Gov was dead - if she didn’t know how to hotwire the vehicle (and I think that’s possible), why disable a vehicle her group could go back and retrieve.
On an unrelated note - how far apart are the prison and Woodbury? The raid to rescue Maggie and Glen seemed to be a pretty long drive - but Andrea jogged it in 12 hours or so?
Brilliant!
Michonne made the same trip on foot with a gunshot wound to her leg, so it can’t be that far. 5 or 6 miles, maybe?
I think the idea was that he’d be able to hear Andrea walking on it; unclear to what extent the sound mixers/editors paid it off. They did a similarly awful job with the zombie-Penny sounds a few episodes back, when Michonne discovered Penny.
Alan Sepinwall had the idea in his review that:
Another road not taken:
Andrea is overcome by zombies and killed a few miles into her jog. Zombies are actually dangerous again; Andrea’s persistent overestimation of her own abilities pays off by getting her killed; it’s a cruel and random world again, instead of one driven by melodrama. She dies because she was of divided loyalties, “on the fence”, and she dies literally between Woodbury and the prison. In the apocalypse, strong conviction and will trumps indecision and equivocating.
The Governor assumes Andrea made it to the prison; the prison folks assume Andrea’s still loyal to the Gov. She still affects the ultimate outcome, even in death.
Totally agree. That really pissed me off. He’d better have a couple giant chunks taken out of him, at the very least. From the overwhelming number of zombies he found himself up against, with no bullets, there’s no freaking way he should’ve survived. Talk about diabolus ex machina.
Re: the Fire. I don’t think it is even a question it was Milton. You were supposed to assume it was Tyreese until the Governor questioned him. The scene after with Milton made it pretty clear he, Milton, did it. He was obviously poorly lying.
ETA: I also think it is silly for them to fight each other when they have a world full of danger and resources but then again I always did sympathize with Dale 
But everyone should have known he was still alive as soon as they cut away from that scene. When have they ever actually killed someone without showing it? Lori was the only one that may not have been shown clearly dying though I don’t remember for sure.
They have used the trope of implying someone left for dead then the person surviving at least a few times.