Ew, I think this show is going too far. Cooking and eating people while they’re still alive. And talking to them. Next they’re going to be torturing kittens and puppies.
Anyway, I didn’t pick up that Bob is connected to Terminus. Also, everyone is infected so I don’t see what difference it would make if Bob had a scratch.
The priest definitely locked his parishioners out and let them die. The slime zombie with the glasses? Mistress? Ex-secretary?
Ug. I still feel queasy. This show is going to turn me vegetarian.
All signs pointed to Bob being bitten but I think that was just misdirection. From Gareth’s speech we know that Bob was once part of Terminus. He knew Bob’s name and said it was just a cosmic coincidence that they got him. He even said something about how he told Bob that he could never go back (to pre-cannibal?). So I think now Bob will be given a choice of joining them again and eating his friends or becoming the next few meals.
I think his tears when he went outside were because he knew the Terminus folks would ruin this happy moment soon enough.
I think Gabriel is also working with Terminus. They knew where the church was. I think Gabriel has been sending folks their way in exchange for protection. They may have even set him up on that rock to trap Rick and the gang. He said he never ventured far and he wasn’t apparently hunting so why was he there?
The Washington story line is not that interesting yet but really, what else do they have to do? That or keep wandering in circles through Georgia. But first I want to see them destroy the cannibals. Eating Bob in front of Bob was really disgusting.
You die quicker and more painfully if you get bit by a zombie (and I would assume scratched, too, if you get their zombie germs in the scratch, which Bob would have) - it seems to be a supercharged infection, rather than the one that reanimates you if you die of natural causes.
That’s a good point. :smack: It just seems from the conversation that the two knew each other. I don’t remember if they had any interaction when the gang arrived at Terminus.
I could buy that. It’s pretty coincindental Gabriel had just enough canned goods right up to the day Rick’s gang walks up. With no way to defend himself whatsoever, he’s never been attacked or looted. He probably cooperates with Terminus or somebody in exchange for um, food or something. And protection. In his journal thing he had “THOU SHALT NOT KILL” in big letters. I guess “killing” is what he feels the most guilt about. Poor tool.
It wasn’t up until that day though. He said when he ran out of supplies, he foraged from all the nearby placed, except one, which is how they ended up in that building with the zombies in the flooded basement.
The interaction that he was referring to was when Bob was pleading for his life at the trough, saying they “didn’t have to do this” and how they could “go back” to the way things used to be.
Bob was definitely not a Termite or connected to them previously, I think some people were just distracted by the relatively personable cannibal and misinterpreted his references.
Right. He scavenged everything but the one place, then he started venturing further away from the church and got surrounded by zombies right when Rick’s group is coming along.
Aw, too bad the “Bob used to be part of Terminus” theory has already been debunked. I was going to ask about Bob on the way to Terminus; was he the one who kept wanting to just stop and not go to Terminus? That could have supported the theory, but it’s moot now.
Credit where it’s due, though, the show has seemingly moved on from its one-black-male-at-a-time rule. It’s even getting into the neighborhood of Georgia’s actual racial demographics; there were 15 characters in the church*, and 33% were black. Georgia is 30.5% African-American as of 2010.
I have to wonder if the showrunners are specifically trying to cast The Wire alums, or if any given black character actor working in TV is disproportionately likely to have been on The Wire, due to its unusual racial balance.
Alan Sepinwall floated the idea that he wanted to get away from the communion wine, being a recovering alcoholic. My fiance’ suggested that, since he left when Sasha went to go hold the baby, that there might be a connection there, like Bob having a spouse and a baby who died during the apocalypse. I was solidly behind the idea that he’d been bitten and wanted to enjoy his last few hours before he felt the turnin’ coming on, but it could just be a misdirect. Having him get bitten after letting his guard down to go for the food would put the button on Rick’s speech to Carl about never being safe, though I suppose Bob getting captured and mutilated due to wandering off outside would too.
That’s the scene I’m looking forward to, Bob laughing his ass off as the Termites realize what they’ve done.
Right, for all their talk about how dangeorous the world is, they sure go out of their way to expose themselves to as much needless risk as possible. They’ve never heard of a spear?
I also thought Bob was bitten. Not sure where people got the “Bob was part of Terminus” idea though.
I also agree the “secret” with Gabriel is he let his flock die because he was afraid. I don’t think he has anything to do with Terminus. Not sure if he has anything to do with the religious folks that seem to have Beth but I doubt it.
I am curious why only Darryl mentioned Beth. Maggie is Beth’s sister. You think she would also be concerned about her.
Ahhhh, I forgot that part. That scene makes more sense now. Although I do like the idea of the group having to decide how to handle a reformed cannibal.
Church lady’s photo reminded me of Bernadette on Big Bang. I also thought Bob might have been bit. What did Abraham mean when he said to Rosita " this is why we will pick our time" or something like that for the RAH Rah speech or something else?
I’m a terrible person for thinking the church lady zombie was hilarious. The pearls and glasses got me.
I’m not sure about Mister Grimes Goes to Washington. Even if they get there – and that’s a really heavily-populated area – how will they find where any survivors are? The underground bunkers where the Prez and others are supposed to go if all hell breaks loose aren’t just going to go “Oh, hello good people, we’ll let you in! Decontamination on the right, chocolate pudding on the left!”
I wouldn’t write off Bob having known the Termites before. I’m not saying he was a cannibal, but there had to be a reason that Gareth mentioned it being ironic besides the speech that Bob gave before they could’ve beheaded them. I mean, simply going, “You don’t have to do this.” wouldn’t really fit, would it? Technically, the fault of why they’re in this position is on Carol, not Bob. So, when Bob talked early on about how he was bad luck with the two previous groups, maybe he meant them and how he’d turned coward to help during their transformation from good folks to bad, due to his alcoholism. Or something.
I thought the reason Carol was out there all by herself was that she was planning on leaving. She didn’t seem completely convinced with Daryl’s idea of everyone getting a clean slate and starting over. Contrived to drive the plot, sure, but it appeared in keeping with how reluctant she felt over her past deeds.
I like the idea of the father (priest? pastor?) being hooked up with the Termites too, but agree with the consensus that all of that’s a coincident and he’d been turning away his parishioners out of fear, thus letting them zombify. And then he’s confronted with the proof in the form of his organist and I think it was just too much.
The Beth thing is annoying. I also think Maggie doesn’t mention her because she believes she’s dead and is trying to move on. I don’t think the “cross” on the back of the kidnap car necessarily denotes those people are religious.
I have no idea why Bob was outside. I bet it’s some off-the-wall reason we haven’t thought of yet. Although any of these mentioned would work.
I don’t follow these threads normally, so if this has been brought up before I apologize, but does anyone else think that Eugene will turn out to be full of shit? I can just see them get to DC and finally expecting to prove what gives. Then Eugene will say, “Uh, sorry guys. I know this makes me an awful person, but I don’t know squat. Since there’s no way I could take care of myself, but I’m a huge video game nerd, I took my knowledge of the zombie apocalypse from there and pretended to be someone important that could help everyone, just to save my own life. Please don’t kill me now. At least we’re better off / safer / whatever.” I’m just waiting for that shoe to drop.
Every single sane person on this show should at some point go off by themselves and have a good long cathartic cry. Bob was doomed for telling Rick he was right about going back and finishing off the Termini and doubly doomed for being Mr. Optimistic Sunshine about how great things will be in DC. Anyhoo, after being Mr. Optimistic and smiling and generally keeping up appearances, it makes sense to me he’d go off and cry. I’d ball my ass off after surviving Terminus and everything else. If it turns out Bob was bitten and going to die anyway and that means the Termini are doomed, that’s fine I guess but whatever happens to the Termini needs to be even worse. Just letting someone die and turn isn’t enough justice anymore.
By rights, Carl should die next. He’s optimistic about the team being strong enough to handle whatever comes. Bye Carl!