I’m pretty sure that Noah is the other twin. Walkers don’t age, so they no longer look the same age. Imagine if Carl had a twin that turned in the first week of the outbreak. Carl would grow and age; his dead twin would not.
Both the show and comic were vague on that but it is implied it was at least a couple of weeks.
Bad Wolf?
Are we going to have a crossover with early NuWho? Zombified Daleks? (Band name!)
Would zombie Daleks be called “rollers”, “hover-ers”?
An extended “I see dead people” sequence is pretty fucking redundant in a series like this, I daresay.
You could be right but I could have sworn Noah kept referring to twin brothers, as in plural. But I could certainly be mistaken. I guess part of my reasoning that he isn’t one of the twins (other than that) is that I know full well what the actor looked like at the age of the twins in the pictures (and so do probably a lot of other viewers) and it would be easy enough to just get pics of him at that age and just photo-shop a twin. The walker twin wouldn’t even have to look that much like him because of the make-up. Using a old pic of Tyler James Williams would also make it that much more obvious it was supposed to be his twin. His facial structure is pretty distinctive.
Also, Tyler is about 22 years old now. According to various timelines for WD, 3 years have passed at the most*. If his twin were about 12, that would put him about 15 or 16. Sure he could be playing younger than his age but I don’t think he’s supposed to be that young. Admittedly, I am terrible at guessing kid’s ages and I could be completely wrong and expecting a lot of thought in casting and set design from a show that likes to do dumb things.
*cite: http://www.wetpaint.com/walking-dead/articles/2014-01-06-timeline-how-long-zombie-apocalypse. You can’t really judge by Carl (Chandler Riggs), that’s the trouble with casting pre-teens, puberty won’t wait for the show hiatus, just ask Walt. Also, Judith should be a toddler by now but I don’t think she’s even walking yet.
I perused some posts over on the IMDB forum, should have done that sooner it would have been quicker than typing out my post. Everyone is referring to the twins as Noah’s brothers, plural. No one else seems to think it was Noah’s twin.
Most people agree that Tyrese was stupid and Everybody Hates Noah.
I agree.
I got that they were Tyreese’s hallucinations, but it just weird that he hallucinated a British announcer talking about civil war atrocities (which neatly match stuff that happened on the show) in a mysterious republic. I wondered if that was supposed to be a reference to something.
Yes, that was one of many flaws this episode had.
Which means Noah & his dad were scavenging as far away from home as Atlanta? :dubious: Or were they just stuck in GA when the outbreak started? I got the impression Noah was remembering as a fortified survivor colony, not just a regular gated community.
Gasoline can go stale; the timeframe varies by brand, how it was stored, and whether it’s an ethanol blend.
The original Dawn of the Dead already did it, and it was creepy has hell (probably more so in the '70s).
New better cares are likely to have more completed stuff like electronics and be harder for the gang to keep running with the skills & resources they have.
A strip of cloth torn with his teeth and a model airplane for a handle.
Meh, they lost some folks because of him.
That sounded harsh. On further reading there were a few other people that thought Noah had a twin but they were quickly shot down. And it was pointed out that in one of the pics on the wall, Noah was sitting behind the twins.
The shows creator said this
so while some posters here said this doesd not matter it is what the creator of the show universe had in mind so it’s not so clear this isn’t what he had in mind.
Note: Tyrese didn’t die of the virus. He died of blood loss.
Note: We know that all humans carry the virus and will turn once they die.
Question: If we all carry the virus why would more of it matter? This doesn’t even make much sense to me but i’m not a doctor so maybe you can live with the virus in you but even one drop more of it and BLAMMO!!! Zombie time.
Note: We have never seen anyone survive a zombie bite except Herschel. Everyone else was either eaten, killed or put down before they could die. Maybe Bob but then we have to assume that it was the virus that got him not the fact that he’d been carved up and eaten by cannibals who had no medical skills or medicines.
i really have always believed that they’re chopping off arms for no reason and this episode reinforced that because as pointed out above, there was no way he wasn’t bleeding out the way they chopped him. Ultimately I don’t think they care. It’s a rough world.
As opposed to dismembering?
My 15 yo son and I love watching this show, we both agree it has more holes than my favorite t shirt but whenever we start to question the show one of us will say “you know, zombies, comic book” and we just sit back and enjoy the brain candy floss for what it is…craptastic.
I didn’t catch everything, but I thought that the radio announcements were supposed to be Tyrese’s recollections of news reports of the actual Rwandan genocide. It would more or less fit the time frame for him hearing about it on the radio as a kid.
And now for some humor for those of us frustrated by events.
“MORE WALKING (AND TALKING) DEAD: PART 1” - A Bad Lip Reading of The Walking Dead Season 4
Be sure to check out Part 2 and Carl Poppa’s lyric video.
All the “it’s just a comic adaptation so of course it sucks” talk is humorous, since from what I’ve read most of the comic fans think the show does a poor job and they’ve changed a lot of things around for the worse.
The biggest eye roll part for me over the last several seasons is how everyone monologues while trying to sound deep and inspirational. But they just sound stilted and pretentious and not the way people talk to each other, or like avatars of the write trying to get across Important Truths ™. Tyreese was a big offender, so I’m kinda glad he’s gone.
You expected character arcs, themes, and reincorporation? You poor bastard!
But yes, that was pretty much a complete waste of a character flaw. Why even have that Judith scene if you won’t go anywhere with it.
I like hallucination and introspective mindfuck scenes so this episode wasn’t completely terrible, but it definitely dragged. And they were exploring a new place, so that was nice.
Scott Wilson said that when Herschel had Noble Lines in the script, he knew his character was for the chop. I wonder if Chad Coleman knew when hi time was up.
And the depressed, giving up to faith expression of his dying character, that must have been very easy to pull off. 
One of the pictures that Distracted Tyreese was looking at showed Noah sitting behind his two twin brothers. I believe brother #1 was on the bed, and brother #2 bit Tyreese.
You’re not the only one that thought that Noah was the other twin. I don’t remember seeing a photo with three kids in it, though it’s hard to see them all.
Yep. Not only that, but Noah talked about having twin brothers (plural), meaning either that he had two twin brothers who were older or younger than him, or he was a triplet.