Does anyone know what the general reception of this season has been so far? Not just here, on this MB, but in the country as a whole. I hope the writers are getting the message!! This was such a good show, and now I “Fear” it has turned into something else. It’s almost as if the part of the brain of this show that made it what it was is gone, and it’s now just an empty shell of show, staggering across the TV screen each week.
I know ratings were down for the premier, not sure how the rest of the season has done.
Ugh, I don’t know what to do anymore. I feel like I’m watching the show anymore out of inertia and because the zombie genre is my favorite type of horror film. I usually never watch live anymore but off of DVR the next day/week. I also note that the participation in the forum is way down too. It feels like those quality storylines and episodes are so long gone that all we know is Negan. It feels like this story arc is all there every was and ever will be. And it is endless and pointless.
Maybe I’ve had too much cold medicine today…
I made this exact observation out loud while watching it last night. It’s painfully obvious as a plot device.
And, while I knew Shiva’s death was imminent, couldn’t they have made it more believable? She’s a full grown healthy tiger - no way 20 walkers could just grab her and she’d lay down.
Imagine if you wanted to bite a house cat to death - you think it’d lay down and let you? Now make that house cat weigh 100 times more.
I know it’s just a silly zombie show - but if a full grown healthy tiger is out numbered, it’s going to get away, not just lay down and get chewed on.
Yeah, walkers may be fearless and feel no pain but a freakin’ tiger? Give me a break.
This is what I feel like, minus the cold meds. I started last night about 20 minutes in, but I started skipping ahead 30 seconds because it was just so drawn out. I “watched” the first 50 minutes in about 20-25.
So much was boring and unbelievable. The fence was not that tall, the guy had thrown a jacket over the fence, yeah, it might have hurt, but the King could have gotten over a lot easier than just tying to fight off all those walkers. Don’t know if I really want to keep up any more.
Too much speechifying this season. I prefer the speech Richard Pryor gave when he was doing a standup routine on war movies, in this case, aboard a submarine: ‘Men, there’s just one thing I want to tell you before we take off. Some of you gonna get wiped out. That’s all I wanted to say before we take off.’
I hated to see Shiva killed. I knew she would die eventually, and yes, she did save her best friend by her sacrifice. But I think it was a stupid way for her to die (as brewha noted). Better she should die saving Ezekiel in a melee with the Saviours.
And as always, I hate that they’re always using automatic fire because A) In real life, there are more semi-autos than autos; B) Aimed fire would probably be more effective against zombies and living enemies; and C) Suddenly the dearth of ammunition that was a plot point in earlier episodes is no longer a problem because… Plot.
I feel like they are at least managing to include zombies as a factor in their battles this season unlike the last couple where they’ve been completely ignored.
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In the comic, was not Sheba unsuccessful in rescuing Ezekiel?
Did they ever explain the red/orange ribbons vs blue ribbons on various people’s arms?
They didn’t, but you can divine their meanings. They did address them on The Talking Dead after Negan’s attack on Alexandria.
White: Alexandria
Orange: The Kingdom
Green: Hilltop
“These orange banners cry out that we will be successful in our struggle! That each of our warrior knights will return with glory to The Kingdom! The Men of Orange will, for the rest of their lives, show their wounds in ale shops, and be know as brave knights for years to come! Those who did not accompany these glorious Knights of Orange, will hold themselves in content for years to come, that they did not fight with us, on this Saint Crispin’s Day!”
Damn those fifty cals.
Missed it. Like I said, too much speechifying.
Agreed. And even bad-ass Carol was bad-ass, and then stupid, and then bad-ass again.
When she followed them out to the jeep, and they were loading the 50-cal, she knew there were five of them. They were all standing there right behind the jeep. But does she mow them all down in one go? No, she waits until there are just three of them and then, without checking where the other two might have gone, walks out into the open before she starts firing, giving the other two, who have placed themselves strategically behind a pick-up truck, plenty of time to shoot at her. And even then they can’t hit her from 30 feet with automatic weapons.
And what the fuck is with the speed of the zombie horde? When the savior is dragging the King around, and they end up in front of the fence, the two of them have time for a five minute conversation while the walkers apparently get no closer at all.
We’re now four episodes into the season, and even leaving aside all the terrible writing and plot armor, i feel like they could comfortably have fit everything that’s happened so far this season into two episodes, with time left over. The writing is fucking terrible.
As for how the show’s doing, plenty of the reviews are scathing, for the sorts of reasons we’ve been discussing here. And viewership has dropped off quite significantly this season. Last week’s episode (8:03 Monsters) had the smallest viewership since Season 2, and the Rotten Tomatoes rating for episodes 2 and 3 of this season are at 50% and 52% respectively, although this week’s episode is (inexplicably, IMO) currently at 88%.
Forbes notes that the increasing shittiness of the show might be, at least partly, a result of the fact that the cast and the scope of the show has gotten much bigger, but the budget hasn’t:
I couldn’t agree more.
The 50 cal bullets pinging off of Rick’s windshield really ruined it for me. That, and listening to the damn king orating all the time made it really boring. I gave this episode a “meh”
Yep. And then when she surrenders to them, they don’t just shoot her. It was so stupid, all the way through. I actually FF’ed a lot in this episode, and again never got past the first few minutes of Talking Dead. They should rename that show Fawning Dead.
No Ezekiel is saved by Shiva similar to how the show went down. He does die but later in the story
Thanks!
I’m still waiting to find out whether Gabriel has his shittin’ pants on.
OK, that made me laugh! 