Speaking of invention…
Actually, “suspicious activity” seems to be sort of a catch-all category for 911 calls with no specific crime in progress. You will note that even the report of the possibly lost child came under that heading.
Regards,
Shodan
It is a catch-all category, for those calls which the caller has not witnessed a crime or does not have good reason to believe a crime is about to be committed.
Like possibly being in a neighborhood at night while black.
I think that we need to look into ways to change the legal system. The way I see it, Stand Your Ground Laws are an extension Property Rights Laws, for instance, here in Texas if I have a fence and/or a no Trespassing sign, I can shoot and kill anyone on my property with very few exceptions and these few exceptions have been whittled down by Stand Your Ground ie I have no duty to retreat at all in fact I can aggressively go after you. Now I know that basic property rights are a corner stone of our legal system, but how did we get to the idea that property is more valuable than human life? What can we do to fix this? If you feel that this is a hijack I will happily start a new thread but I think that it is relevant to the ongoing discussion Cheers all
No it isn’t, as the example of the two white males and one Hispanic and the slim jim shows. That was reported under ‘suspicious activity’ as well. And he did have good reason to believe that a crime might be about to be committed. As a matter of fact, there is only one instance where Zimmerman did not articulate what the reason was for the call. Granted, that one instance was of a black male, but it does not exactly establish a picture of a paranoid racist dialing 911 every time a black guy walks past his apartment.
So? If you want to call his neighborhood watch activities “being a busybody”, fine, but I don’t see how it affects my point. He called 911 more than I have - so what? I thought I read that his neighborhood had had a number of burglaries and thefts and at least one other shooting in the previous year. I would expect a neighborhood like that to generate a lot more 911 activity than mine does.
If someone in my neighborhood wanted to call himself the neighborhood watch captain, it’s no skin off my ass if he reports everything. I wish somebody had reported it when my next-door neighbor got burglarized.
It’s too bad that he shot Martin, but I don’t see how his previous calls to 911 establish anything about that.
Regards,
Shodan
Sadly, this comment this places you in the upper tenth of conservatives regarding enlightenment on this issue.
This is unnecessary. As has been pointed out, even many conservatives have opined that at the least this was a horrible tragedy. Not everyone is Crafter_Man.
You don’t see a difference between observing and hunting? Really?
How many of those calls reported “suspicious individuals”. Of those, how many were white?
grand jury on the case convenes april 10th
in response to a lot of posts above, if you listen to the 911 tapes, Martin’s “suspicious activity” was that he "looked like he was messed up. on drugs or something."
to clarify, Zimmerman called 911 stating this kid looked messed up, “probably on drugs.” he wasn’t skulking around parked cars or house windows, not even by Zimmerman’s account. Zimmerman didn’t suspect him of any crime or OF committing any crimes other than “being under the influence of (something).”
the use of deadly force against someone because “they look like they are on drugs” doesn’t even qualify as property protection.
I agree.
Do you have any evidence to point to that Zimmerman used deadly force against Martin because Martin “looked like he was on drugs”?
Thank you, I have no idea how I missed that:smack:
There’s no evidence that he used deadly force for any other reason.
… if you ignore the eyewitness that says Martin was sitting on top of Zimmerman beating him up…
Of course this was after he followed him in his car then chased him down in the dark.
yes. it’s called “the 911 tapes.” the initial suspicion and catalyst for pursuing Martin in the first place was because Zimmerman thought he was on drugs.
it’s is the initial CAUSE for zimmerman’s contact with Martin. whatever happened after that is up for debate, but the irrefutable catalyst for Zimmerman to get involved in the first place was his suspicion Martin “was messed up.”
hey, isn’t it cool how we answer questions and actually assert our points on the forum?
weird how you stick around and demand people provide evidence when you refuse to give any opinions of your own.
but whatever. you’re transparent anyway.
bottom line: if zimmerman hadn’t decided martin was “on drugs” and that he needed to engage him, martin would be alive today.
to play your own game, prove this.
i will need a cite (from an unbiased source) as well as the full name of the witness. you will also need the NAMED EYE WITNESS’S account that martin was UP TOP OF zimmerman WHEN THE DECISION WAS MADE TO SHOOT HIM, NOT BEFORE.
otherwise NUH UH.
what’s good for the goose is good for the gander.
Of course. The police know the full name of the witness since they took his statement. You, or the public in general, don’t need to know the name of the witness right now. Or who knows, NBPP may call for “5000 black men” to go out and “capture” him tomorrow.
ah i see.
so YOU need names of witnesses or you dismiss their claims.
but WE don’t.
you are absolutely the worst at debate.
get a better hobby.