I know this is going to be a hijack but here goes.
I’d often wondered about the correctnass of using the “handicapped” stall in public restrooms. Some years back, I listened to an interview with an ADA advocate, who said it was OK to use the handicapped stall as long as one didn’t cut in front of an actual handicapped person in order to do so.
I have used the HC stall in the ladies room quite a few times since hearing that. Since I figure Actual Handicapped People a: aren’t really a dime a dozen and b: Are people who can presumably wait a couple of minutes, should I inadvertently enter the HC stall in the presence of an Actually Handicapped Person.
(Note that I have never, ever, EVER pulled into a HC parking space except for the few times I’ve been chauffering an Actual Handicapped Person, with plates to prove it.)
I think Ambivalid was mostly concerned that all the other places to pee were vacant. I hope you don’t use that stall if all the others are empty!
And Ambi you should have told that fellow that he needen’t worry about folks looking at his junk since it was way too little to be of interest to anyone.
Related to this one - at the airport terminal, when the seat backs are pressed together for seats facing away from one another, and someone who feels like they just hiked up Everest feels the needs to throw themselves into the seat right behind you and practically throw you forward out of your seat. Sometimes it seems that you almost knock heads with them. Please people, be aware of what you are doing!
No, this is wrong. That ADA person was a schmuck. If the only time people didn’t use handicap stalls was when a handicap person was right there behind them then no disabled person would ever have “first dibs” on the handicapped stall (or at least very, very rarely). Every-single-time I’ve had to wait for someone using the stall totally unnecessarily, that person entered the stall when no handicap person was “waiting behind them”.
Secondly, to your point about disabled people being able to wait a few minutes just like everyone else: OF COURSE! Just like everyone else! But not when every single other toilet is free and my bladder is about to explode (or Im about to shit myself) and I’m staring at empty toilets in desperate anguish while some asshole spreads out the NY Times while he takes a shit.
The handicapped stalls are “stalls of necessity”. For everyone; disabled and able-bodied. The disabled need the stalls for every bathroom trip. The able bodied need the stalls when every other option is occupied. It’s pretty simple.
I dunno - I’m post menonpausal and from what I read, (and from my own experience) when post meno women need to go, they need to Go, NOW. More directly: when I need to go, I seriously need to go. Plus the disabled shitters are not only almost unoccupied, they are usually clean. Mainly because they don’t get used much.
I knew this was a mistake to bring this up :smack:. So I will make a pledge right now this minute that unless my bladder is bursting or I am having some sort of uncontrollable gastro-intestinal event, I will avoid disabled stalls, ADA spokespersons be damned, because they are all wrong and you are right.
I hate people who congregate in a tight group in narrow store isles so that the only way to get past is to act like a bowling ball or back up and go to another isle. I also hate groups that take up the whole sidewalk so you have to scuff your feet, bend your head, make horns of index fingers, and charge snorting at them until they give you room.
I was raised by Tea Party types-- rich right-wing WASPs. So it ain’t easy to NOT judge everyone I see.
But I’m trying, and you know what? The less I think about what other people are doing in restaurants, at the library, or on public transportation, the more content I am.
Huh? i think walking around on bare feet is disgusting and look down on people who do that. The floor is disgusting, the shoes are there to protect me from it.
Do you disagree with what I said? Or do you just want to get snarky? “I’m post menonpausal and from what I read, (and from my own experience) when post meno women need to go, they need to Go, NOW” This quote of yours implies that all the other stalls are occupied and you need to go. By all means, use the handicap stall in this instance. It’s needed.
He’s asking able-bodied people to use the handicapped stall only when there are no regular stalls available and no handicapped people in the queue. he’s not asking able-bodied people to never, ever, ever use the handicapped stall. You two actually agree.
People who get off an escalator and just stand there, then glare at the people who have no choice but to slam into them.
Supermarket cashiers who satisfy their “personal itches,” including the ones under their hairpieces . . . then handle my food.
And of course, people who don’t wash their hands in a public restroom, regardless of what they may or may not have touched.
People who leave their shopping cart in the middle of the aisle, then their bodies taking up the rest of the aisle’s width . . . or they leave the cart blocking the aisle, while they’re somewhere else.
There’s roadwork being done, so that lane is terminated. Everyone is lined up in the free lane, waiting to get through . . . and there’s always some jackass in the terminated lane, driving way up ahead to where it’s terminated, then pushing their way into the head of the line.
People blocking the aisles in grocery and other retail stores. Where I shop for groceries it’s common for whole families to be shopping together. One of them stops to look at something and the rest just stop where they are with no concern for others trying to pass.
People at fast food restaraunts or (other places you queue up at a counter) that stand in such a way as to make it ambiguous as to whether they are in line or just reading the menu, waiting for someone or whatever.
