pulykamell:
Good one! I remember that as a kid in the 80s. The containers had a map of Denmark on the label, like you said, and certainly very much implied that it was Danish. I even seem to remember a big star marking Copenhagen on it. Ah, Google to the rescue ! That’s what I remember.
ETA: Looking at it again, that has to be the worst crop of a map I’ve ever seen. I’ve been staring at it for the last minute or two, and I still am having difficulty fitting it into my mental map of the world, and I know damned well where Copenhagen is! I just feel like slightly more context would be helpful.
Well, the pseudo-Danish origin is contrasted with the Teaneck, New Jersey address on that lid.
Chefguy
November 6, 2018, 10:46pm
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I did a search of the thread and couldn’t find where anyone had posted English muffins, which are neither.
Sparky812:
Correct.
The point is that “Canadian Bacon” is an American term for a type of ham. Canadians don’t call it that, it’s not of Canadian origin, and those of us that do use the term are referring to something else which is also not of Canadian origin.
But that was my point. Canadian bacon (to us Americans) is not a type of ham. Ham doesn’t come from the back. It comes from leg. You can say that it’s something similar to ham, and maybe a lot of ignorant folks think that it’s a synonym for ham, but Canadian bacon unequivocally is not ham.
I saw a T-Shirt that said “It’s not NEW and it’s not MEXICO ”.
Kind of the opposite of what the OP is looking for, but I still find it interesting: Nachos were invented by a dude named Ignacio “Nacho” Anaya in 1943.
pulykamell:
Oh boy, this is where things get somewhat confusing. They’re slightly different candy bars in US vs global markets. A UK/Euro Milky Way is like a US Three Musketeers (but smaller), and a US Milky Way is like a UK Mars bar. That is, US Milky Way has a layer of caramel on it; non-US Milky way is just nougat and chocolate. Meanwhile, US Mars bars are chocolate, nougat, and almonds, like a Snickers (formerly Marathon in the UK, but looking it up, it looks like that name has been gone since the early 90s) bar without the caramel layer. Non-US Mars are caramel, nougat, and milk chocolate.
So ->
US:
3 Musketeers: Nougat, milk chocolate
Milky Way: Caramel, nougat, milk chocolate
Mars: Nougat, milk chocolate, almonds
Snickers: Caramel, nougat, milk chocolate, almonds
UK (and elsewhere):
Milky Way: Nougat, milk chocolate
Mars: Caramel, nougat, milk chocolate
Snickers (and Marathon once upon a time): Caramel, nougat, milk chocolate, almonds
I think I’ve got that right, but somebody please double check for me. It’s easily confused.
Saltire:
In the US, Mars bars have whole almonds. Haven’t seen one in a long time, but then again I’m not allowed candy anymore, so I don’t shop for it much.
Snickers has peanuts, though.
pulykamell:
Ah, shit!!! Of course I knew that! :smack: That’s why I asked y’all to check my work. I knew I would screw something up looking at the words caramel, nougat, milk chocolate, and almonds so finely.
Wait. While it’s true that the original Snickers has peanuts, there are Snickers with almonds. Snickers Almond Candy Bar 1.76 oz. - All City Candy
Well, that wouldn’t even have registered to me, as a lot of the imported stuff I have does come through some importer out in the Northeast. I don’t know the exact language that would be used–it does usually say something like “imported by” on it, but looking through my fridge, there are a few products that are imported that simply state “XXX Distribution, LLC, Schiller Park, Illinois” and similar. So that “Teaneck, NJ” address would have meant nothing to me in terms of origin of product.
Well, opposite the Teaneck, New Jersey address is another statement, “MFG IN U.S.A. AT PLANT NO. [whatever]”.
Dewey_Finn:
Well, opposite the Teaneck, New Jersey address is another statement, “MFG IN U.S.A. AT PLANT NO. [whatever]”.
How closely do you think we read the lid of a goddamned ice cream? I was a kid when those lids were around, so I wouldn’t remember that detail, but until your post now, I didn’t notice it, either.
Balthisar:
But that was my point. Canadian bacon (to us Americans) is not a type of ham. Ham doesn’t come from the back. It comes from leg. You can say that it’s something similar to ham, and maybe a lot of ignorant folks think that it’s a synonym for ham, but Canadian bacon unequivocally is not ham.
Sorry, you’re right there. I assumed that because of its look, shape, and taste it was a cut of ham. In my defense, we don’t order or buy it here.
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Canadian bacon is more like ham than the streaky cured and smoked strips of bacon that most of us are used to. American bacon comes from the fatty belly of the pig while Canadian bacon is typically cut from the loin.
As such, it’s much leaner than belly bacon and comes in rounded slices rather than strips.
](https://www.thekitchn.com/whats-the-difference-between-canadian-bacon-or-irish-or-english-and-american-bacon-ingredient-intelligence-166956 )
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November 7, 2018, 8:44pm
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How so? It was invented by Coenraad Johannes van Houten, an Amsterdam chocolate maker.
What? Everything I’ve read says that Dijon mustard is mustard in the style originated in/around Dijon in France.
Not even sure what a Dijon plant is, but I do know it’s not an ingredient in the mustard.
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What? Everything I’ve read says that Dijon mustard is mustard in the style originated in/around Dijon in France.
Not even sure what a Dijon plant is, but I do know it’s not an ingredient in the mustard.
There isn’t a “dijon” plant. From wiki…
Dijon is famous for Dijon mustard which originated in 1856, when Jean Naigeon of Dijon substituted verjuice, the acidic “green” juice of not-quite-ripe grapes, for vinegar in the traditional mustard recipe.
FWIW, Chef Lucien Olivier of salad fame is buried **here **in Moscow:
Vvedenskoye Cemetery (Russian: Введенское кладбище, IPA: [vʲːɪˈdʲenskəjə]) is a historic cemetery in the Lefortovo District of Moscow in Russia.
Until 1918 it was mainly a burial ground for the Catholic and Protestant communities of the city, principally ethnic Germans, and thus it was also called the German Cemetery (Russian: Немецкое кладбище). After 1918 the cemetery was secularized and accepted the dead of all confessions, including the Orthodox clergy. Throughout its history it has also be...
I was there in June 2015. It really is a beautiful place.
Snickers (US) has always contained peanuts. I haven’t seen a US Mars Bar in years, but unless I’m mistaken it was simply renamed Snickers With Almonds . Close enough for me, anyway- the Mars Bar was always one of my favorites.
terentii:
FWIW, Chef Lucien Olivier of salad fame is buried **here **in Moscow:
Vvedenskoye Cemetery - Wikipedia
I was there in June 2015. It really is a beautiful place.
Is he the guy who invented Russian dressing somewhere in New England?
No, Salad Olivier in Moscow. See Post No. 122.
How about some bands?
Asia - not from Asia, formed in London
Nazareth - from Scotland not Jesus’ birthplace
Berlin - L.A. not Germany
Japan - from London, England
Chilliwack - from Vancouver
Chilliwack is only an hour or two by road from Vancouver.
Actually, it’s just over an hour.
By all band members accounts (none of whom are from Chilliwack, btw) they picked the name because they were experimenting with more tribal and drum sounds at the time and liked its Salish meaning “valley of many streams” which they felt reflected their musical direction at the time, and not the town which shares the name.
terentii:
FWIW, Chef Lucien Olivier of salad fame is buried **here **in Moscow:
Vvedenskoye Cemetery - Wikipedia
I was there in June 2015. It really is a beautiful place.
What’s beautiful? All of Moscow, or just that cemetary?