Yeah, this stuff isn’t tiresome at all. :rolleyes: NOBODY is defending Bush. This thread is NOT ABOUT BUSH. It’s a thread that is about a subject other than George W. Bush. His arrogance, his hubris, his mass-murderage, his tough-guy/world leader status or lack thereof – all of it is completely irrelevant (and, not incidentally, aggravating) because this thread is NOT ABOUT BUSH.
Jesus, Red, are you trying to be an example of a one-trick pony, a thread hijacker, and a thread shitter? Personally, I consider you more than a little obsessional on the subject but, hey, we all have our hobbies. But when you drag your Precious into a thread that obviously is not about him, you are Exhibit A for the very behavior people are saying they hate.
Aren’t there about a zillion “Bush Suxxors” threads you could go play in? You could even start another if you wanted. But that’s not the topic under discussion in this thread.
One more I missed earlier: It’s extremely difficult to ask a political question here that’s just a question. Everyone digs through it, assigns you a position on the “debate,” infers your political beliefs, and argues with them. Dudes! I was just asking a question! I don’t have a position yet.
Oh, don’t get me wrong, Gigi. I have nothing against puns. I like puns. When there’s a good pun thread going, I usually jump in. My objection was to posts in a serious thread that make no contribution whatsoever. They just add a joke that all of us probably thought of and declined to post because…well…it would make no contribution whatsoever.
Yeah, I know how you feel. I consider myself reasonably good at communication and sometimes I look back at a thread I’ve been participating in and say, “I can’t believe I actually wrote that.”
Keep it up, though, Bosda. You’ve dispelled some ignorance. Even some of mine. That last post of yours was offensive, though. GD&R
Doper exceptionalism. Everyone really needs to be special. I thought the thread about “What sort of people don’t like you” was a great example.
Random nitpickery and missing-the-pointitis. I started a thread in GQ about Spanish speaking people understanding one another and a couple of posters couldn’t get beyond the throwaway example in the OP that I have had trouble understanding some English speakers in films. If I wanted to talk about how I couldn’t understand everyone in “The Full Monty” I would have started a thread about that, not about Spanish-speakers!
The struggle to find an exception. Sure, we can all do this at times, either because we want to look for a good side to a story or because we happen to know of an exception, but no. If you’re late all the time, it isn’t because you have brain damage. It’s because you’re thoughtless.
Prison rape fantasies. Yick. I mean, if someone wants to fantasize about their own prison rape, have at it. But to tell me how much you fantasize about someone else being raped in prison? Yick.
Post-parsing. The best debates in the Pit and GD can be ground to a halt by incessant post-parsing. You don’t have to reply to each sentence individually.
People not giving the types of answers the OP seeks. If I say how I think things should be, I don’t give a rat’s ass what the law is in Upper Fooburg.
I think that or a religious traditions thread would be great. A couple of months ago, we were playing a board game with a mixed religious bunch, and one of the guys is a Muslim. We got onto the subject of Muslim traditions, and it was truly fascinating. If we could keep it to discussing the different tradtions and keep dogma out of it, I think it could be a great thread.
Thought of a couple more:
Orphaned threads. You, the OP, made the effort to bring this baby into the world, the least you can do is come back and baby-sit it once or twice.
Continuing to beat people up after they’ve recanted/retracted/apologized/sobered up/whatever. You missed the outrage train; too bad. Get over it.
I can see what you’re saying about the cliquishness, Fetchund, but I think that is an unfortunate side-effect whenever there is a group of people who have long-term relationships. The only cure for it is to stick around and develop a relationship here, too. Don’t let the apparent indifference throw you.
I’m sick to death of the TERM “political correctness”. It’s now so loaded that it has lost all meaning. And it’s one of those things that NO ONE likes. You never see anyone voluntarily stand up and align themselves with political correctness, and yet people frequently talk about how everyone else is in favor of political correctness. This is a good sign that it is a meaningless phrase.
Actually, what I was repressing was not my inner Bush apologist, but my inner 14 year old boy: Heh heh, she said Bush! She said it again! 'This thread is not about Bush! Snort!
Jeez, the immaturity that lives in my head . . . .
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jsgoddess, I know I am one of the worst offenders of your fifth point. I will try to do better.
(1) The sarcasm impaired: I know that subtle sarcasm is often difficult to pick up from the printed word, but sometimes it’s so blatant that an ESL* student on his second day of class could pick it up. Doesn’t matter - someone will come in and take the post literally.
(2) This thread. There are even people complaining about pedants when the thread itself is as pedantic as they come, bitching about the minutae of the board.
It’s a lot simpler than all that, Jodi, and it is NOT about hijacking a thread and making it about Bush.
What it is, is a response to a very stupid post IN THIS THREAD, saying that “Bush-bashing got old 3 years ago.” I called BULLSHIT on that for very obvious reasons. He keeps fucking-up, myself and many others will keep bashing the Imbecile In Charge. Don’t want to read about his umpteenth fuck-up? Don’t open the thread. Period.
That’s all. You may now loosen your collar and allow your blood-pressure to stabilize. I said my piece.
I don’t like how people go out of their way to be jerks to each other. Fine, you disagree - but do you have to get personal? The fact that you like A and the guy you’re arguing with about it likes B does not mean that his mother was a whore and his children are bastards. It merely means that you like A and he likes B.
The leaps in “black and white” logic (for lack of a better term) that infuses some posts and some posters. For example, “If you don’t hate [for example] George W. Bush with all your heart, then you must be his biggest supporter,” or, “If you don’t think gay marriage should be legal, then you must hate gays.”
It seems that there is no room at all, in some people’s thinking, for those who haven’t made up their minds, who don’t feel comfortable taking a position until they have researched the issue more, or who just don’t care one way or another. There are, strange as it may seem, huge areas of gray out there that can apply to any issue–there is, IMHO, no need to force other people’s grayish views into an “either black or white” slot.
No junior-modding here. I’m talking about stuff I dislike, which is what this thread is about, you delusional moron. You just happened to provide a bee-yoo-tiful example of it.
For the record, I hate Bush myself. I happily open threads about him and read about his latest fuck-ups (inasmuch as one can be happy about incompetent leadership). I disagree with the notion that all the talk about him is just endless yapping that’s gotten stale and old. I hate his apologists and the anti-liberals. I dislike Shodan as much as you do, and have to regularly restrain myself from throwing vitriol at him where it isn’t appropriate.
But disliking idiots who happen to be anti-Bush is not the same as liking Bush.
Fucking simpleton. You’re as bad as Shodan when it comes to mindlessly showing your partisan ass in the middle of an unrelated thread.
People list the things that they don’t like about the SDMB. For example, I really dislike TMI threads. Someone else posted fairly soon after me and said that TMI threads are about “the human condition” and people who don’t like them don’ t have to read them – a fair point.
These are OPINIONS. They are not subject to being deemed inherently true or false because they are opinions. They are also, not incidentally, totally on topic: What don’t I like? I dont’ like TMI threads. The discussion didn’t then devolve into an argument about whether discussion menstruation is actually TMI or not, because that’s not the subject of this thread.
One person’s opinion is that Bush-bashing got old 3 years ago. (This happens to be an opinion I disagree with only because I think it got old way before 3 years ago.) You disagree – fine. That doesn’t make the other person’s opinion BULLSHIT. That is not an invitation for you to rant about Bush AGAIN.
As a matter of fact, I do not usually care to read about his “upteeth fuck-up,” so I do *not * open those threads. THIS IS NOT ONE OF THOSE THREADS. So kindly keep your political ranting to threads about political ranting, instead of dragging them into threads about other subjects. Because the subject is in my opinion so beyond boring as to have coalesced into the perfect incarnation of pure tediousness, and when you drag it into threads where that is not the subject – as you did here – you are threadshitting.
As for nitpicking corrections, some of us actually like it when someone points out an error that is obviously not a typo. For example, if I post that I love “The Wreck of the Edwin Fitzgerald”, I appreciate someone correcting me on it, so as I don’t lose a bet one day regarding the proper title.
You. You personally are what I don’t like about this message board.
You’re so vain, you probably think this post is about you, don’t you
In case no one figures it out, I had no one in mind when I made this post, I just thought it would be funny, in a horrible, sad way
Also, I’ve seen dopers post in smaller text than this: how?
Thanks for the lesson, teach. And fuck you very much.
Simply NOT an “opinion” that Bush IS a fuck-up. There are hundreds of thousands of innocent dead people to make it a FACT. Secondly, I was not the one who brought the SOB into play in this thread.
And once again, read this real s-l-o-w-l-l-y…I simply don’t give a shit who thinks “Bush-bashing” is old news or not. Fact is he remains the world’s most powerful political figure and as his actions CONTINUE to impact the world in a negative way, I have nothing but scorn for anyone who continues to support the bastard. And that’s NOT an opinion.
Now, I would have said nothing more or nothing less than that ONE single post on the topic (which, once again, I didn’t breach), but if the apologists come out of the woodworks…shrug. I’m not going to keep quiet. Or are you (and them) not “thread-shitting” also?
Domon, don’t know you from a hole in the ground. Don’t recall reading a single post of yours in my six years here. Conversely, it appears you don’t know shit about me either.
Partisan my hairy white ass. I’m a Spaniard and couldn’t give a shit which Party runs your country…as long as they are not ignorant pig-fuckers with a murderous vein and dreams of empire.
So, would you like to continue the thread-shitting? Or is it only so when one disagrees with your opinion (or Jodi’s)?
