Things you hate about fictional characters you love

Can’t say I agree. I’ve always taken it that several years take place between Trek V & VI. Remember, II & III take place within days of each other, and about 15 years after the original series; IV takes place only a few months later; and VI a few months after that; but by the time of VI, Enterprise is 20 years old (presumably 20 years after the refit in I).

I agree with you; the only character resurrections that have ever worked for me are ones with huge and continuing costs to the revenant (e.g., Buffy) or ones that leave the revenant feeling as joyous and irresponsible as one would expect after cheating the reaper (e.g., Superman). But that’s a plot complaint.

Clark Kent in Smallville needs to get over Lana, already. Easy to say, I know…

There’s eight years between the events of The Search for Spock and The Undiscovered Country.

As for my own nomination, Xander’s oftentimes too quick to judge and generally comes off as a self-righteous and condescending ass whenever he and Buffy disagree but I love him anyway for his goofiness and loyalty.

Chloe > Lana

But… but… the RUFFLES, man! :smiley:

Another one for Kaylee: She’s an absolute sweetheart, but she has the ability to sieze an insult from the jaws of a compliment, which is unfortunate given Simon’s ability to swallow his foot up to the kneecap whenever he isn’t talking about medicine.

Yeah, it occured to me that all the qualities that made Xander the lovable loser when he was in high school just make him highly unlikeable now that he’s a successful adult. I mean, think about it, he’s pretty much the ONLY core Scoobie who could be described as being independently successful. Indeed, he found one of the few career fields that pretty much GUARANTEES him work whenever various parts of the town get smashed to pieces during Buffy’s battles. Yet his snarky commentary on everyone and everything around him continues. So now he’s not the wimp getting the last word in, he’s a successful guy giving the Star Trek nerd a hard time (not to mention his understandable dislike of vampires bordering on outright racism fueled by jealousy when dealing with vampires that AREN’T out to do harm to him or his friends).

Still, you gotta admit, the man was handy with an axe or a hammer, depending on which the situation called for.

You’re more of an optimist than I am. :dubious:

Nitpick: Sir Harry, not Sir Flashman. I hate how his character has softened over the years, from the utterly despicable rapist, coward, murderer, vindictive sod and all-round treacherous lying bastard of the early books to being merely a genial scoundrel: why, in Flashman On The March he didn’t even try to shirk his duty, even when Theodore offered him a chance to walk away - and he was probably justified in trying to kick Uliba over the waterfall.

Glen Cook’s Garrett was a down on his luck P.I. who’d occasionally manage a good haul. I loved that his retirement plan was to go work for the brewery.it was all he had. But now he’s practically rolling in dough since he invested in those tricycle things. And he’s got all these connections. It really hurts the mystique of Garrett.

They really need to make one of those into a movie.

Rumpole never gets silk.

Falstaff dies.

Sebastian Flyte ages & Charles become maudlin, sober and religious.

Holden Caufield never gets any.

Miss Smilla never gets a proper job.

Dude? You know there are take-offs on Nero Wolfe and Archie, right?

Yeah, but he did have a lot to say!

While I absolutely adore Alan Rickman, I hate, hate, hate that the character of Snape is being protrayed as in his mid-late 50’s in the movies. He is the same age, within a year or two, of Lily and James. They are in their late 30’s, early 40’s at the oldest.

Agreed. But I still wouldn’t kick Lana out of bed for farting, if you know what I mean.

I’m probably going to open a whole can o’ worms here, and probably get myself yelled at, but…

I hate Willow, the LESBIAN.

Willow, from the beginning, was in love with Xander. When that didn’t work out, she found Oz… but when the Xander situation presented itself, she found herself with Xander again. That, of course, caused the breakup between her and Oz. Fine so far.

Then she found Tara. No problem- she found someone she could love, and that person just happened to be a she.

But all of a sudden Willow was gay. Not bi, but gay. Suddenly there was no man in her life- she was gay with a capital guh. She even tried to get Jonathan turned into a woman so she could be with him when she magically fell in enchanted love with him. It was like she’d never actually been attracted to men at all, despite what we’d been shown in previous episodes.

And then when Tara died, she hooked up with Kennedy. 'Cause, you know, Kennedy kept her genitals on the inside.

I don’t know, it just felt like so… tacked on. It seemed like a complete reversal of her character, and it felt like Whedon was just pandering to a particular segment of his viewership. If there had been some sort of hint, besides Evil Vampire Willow, that she had been gay from the beginning, I wouldn’t mind so much (and for all we know, EVW was bi, since she certainly seemed to have something going on with Evil Vampire Xander).

Me either, but I would have to stuff a sock or something in Lana’s mouth. She goes from a 9 to a 6 whenever she talks on that show.

I’m pretty much with you there. It never rang true the way it was presented. We never got the idea that Willow personally was in some sort of “I was never straight. I’m gay” denial. We were presented with a world in which Willow was ALWAYS gay and that she has no sexual history before Tara.

Chloe on top of Lana… mmmmmmmmmm… :slight_smile:

No, it didn’t. It caused the breakup between Xander and Cordelia, but Oz and Willow stayed together until Oz ran off to try to find a way to control himself as a werewolf.

I also disagree that her charaterization was inconsistent. There were hints before she met Tara that she liked girls, and there were hints after she met Tara that she still liked boys. She was pretty consistently portrayed as bisexual, at least, as consistently as possible without retitling the show Willow’s Slutty Sex Life. (Which, incidentally, I would have been totally fine with.) She does tend to present herself as a capital-L Lesbian, but that’s not terribly unusual in college-aged bisexual women. Hell, it’s common enough in real life to have developed its own stereotype: Gay 'til Graduation.

Likewise maybe a bit obscure, but I liked the early Lovejoy books, where he’s a rogue but also you get the feeling that he’s pretty tough (but a coward) - he’s always saying how somebody just happened to trip into his fist, or otherwise injure themselves “accidentally” around him. It seems like later Lovejoy books have patterned him more after the role as played by Ian McShane, which was just as cowardly but now in a wimpy sort of way. Therefore, I don’t read the books any more.

I agree. The total bastard of the first book, who offered up the colors to the enemy if they would just stop shooting is gone by the last books. But then, we all grow and hopefully mellow a bit. Maybe Harry did the same.

The entire “Spike in love with Buffy” arc bugged the shit out of me. I want Spike to be evil and cool, or good and cool, not lovesick and needy. That was just pathetic.